Was this a kick

[tjchamp]

Originally Posted by just another ref

How do we know from the OP which of these happened?

It actually was bam bam. The hand hardly changed direction of the ball, the foot was barely behind hand at point of contact. Less than a foot away.

[Welpe]

Originally Posted by tjchamp

It actually was bam bam. The hand hardly changed direction of the ball, the foot was barely behind hand at point of contact. Less than a foot away.

In that case, I'd say a kick violation is probably a good call. If it's a significant deflection, I'd lean towards no call.

[tref]

Is intentionally striking the ball with the leg the same thing as an attempt to strike the ball with leg that deflects off the hand first?

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by tref

Is intentionally striking the ball with the leg the same thing as an attempt to strike the ball with leg that deflects off the hand first?

I don't think so.

As I see it, the rule means "placing the leg in the current (or expected next, if it's jsut before the ball is released) path of the ball."

New path, as on a (anything other than minor) deflection, means the leg need to be moved again.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

I don't think so.

As I see it, the rule means "placing the leg in the current (or expected next, if it's just before the ball is released) path of the ball."

New path, as on a (anything other than minor) deflection, means the leg need to be moved again.

I was just about to reply with more or less what bob said.....

So, what bob said.

If it has missed the hand, would it have then missed the foot? If so, no kick.