Si or no? - Page 2

Adam · #16 (**permalink**) Tue Jan 03, 2012, 03:02pm

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Originally Posted by fullor30

Gosh, watched it 5 times and still can't tell.

Great job by calling C.

Although, appears to waive it off after ball is released, and for the sake of appearance, might be questioned. I don't think it could be any closer.

Only Chuck Norris could have waved it off before it was released.

VaTerp · #17 (**permalink**) Tue Jan 03, 2012, 03:14pm

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Only Chuck Norris could have waved it off before it was released.

Yeah, I don't know how he's suppose to wave that off any quicker than he did.

Good job by the C. It's close but he got it right.

The announcers are comical. "He gets away with a cary..........Oh that definitely went in.......the officials were wrong and we were right....."

Always easy to officiate from the top of the stands. (Which at least they did admit, somewhat). They said they were going to review the film and post it on their website. Anyone have a link?

fullor30 · #18 (**permalink**) Tue Jan 03, 2012, 03:27pm

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Originally Posted by VaTerp

Yeah, I don't know how he's suppose to wave that off any quicker than he did.

Good job by the C. It's close but he got it right.

The announcers are comical. "He gets away with a cary..........Oh that definitely went in.......the officials were wrong and we were right....."

Always easy to officiate from the top of the stands. (Which at least they did admit, somewhat). They said they were going to review the film and post it on their website. Anyone have a link?

Precisely, He does it as quickly as he can, yet since it is split second, it could be construed as after he(shooter) released it.

billyu2 · #19 (**permalink**) Tue Jan 03, 2012, 03:29pm

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Originally Posted by VaTerp

Yeah, I don't know how he's suppose to wave that off any quicker than he did.

Good job by the C. It's close but he got it right.

The announcers are comical. "He gets away with a cary..........Oh that definitely went in.......the officials were wrong and we were right....."

Always easy to officiate from the top of the stands. (Which at least they did admit, somewhat). They said they were going to review the film and post it on their website. Anyone have a link?

My thoughts as well. The announcer was wrong...both times!

zm1283 · #20 (**permalink**) Tue Jan 03, 2012, 03:51pm

Good call. You can pause the video and then play it and the ball is still in his hands and you can hear the horn going off.

The announcers are a couple of chuckleheads.

JRutledge · #21 (**permalink**) Tue Jan 03, 2012, 03:58pm

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Originally Posted by fullor30

Gosh, watched it 5 times and still can't tell.

Great job by calling C.

Although, appears to wave it off after ball is released, and for the sake of appearance, might be questioned. I don't think it could be any closer.

He waved it off before the ball went into the basket I believe. It was close so I would not expect him to be waving his arms before the shot was released (if that is what you are actually suggesting).

Peace

JugglingReferee · #22 (**permalink**) Tue Jan 03, 2012, 05:40pm

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Originally Posted by zm1283

Good call. You can pause the video and then play it and the ball is still in his hands and you can hear the horn going off.

The announcers are a couple of chuckleheads.

YU.P.

I managed to do that too. Paused at 12 seconds. I had heard the beginnings of the horn, and the ball starting to come out of his hands, but still in contact with the hands.

Toren · #23 (**permalink**) Wed Jan 04, 2012, 12:12am

Did anyone else have a carry? At first I couldn't tell who the commentators were cheering for, it became fairly obvious.

The C did a great job as everyone else said, on first viewing I thought it was in his hand. But glad I had the replay button cause I wasn't 100% like the C was.

KJUmp · #24 (**permalink**) Wed Jan 04, 2012, 06:05am

Good call and a great job selling it.
I don't work 3-man....can someone take me through that crew's coverage for the end of game situation we saw in the video?

Scrapper1 · #25 (**permalink**) Wed Jan 04, 2012, 08:23am

It's the game that keeps you young at heart!! Si o no??

bob jenkins · #26 (**permalink**) Wed Jan 04, 2012, 08:49am

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Originally Posted by Toren

The C did a great job as everyone else said, on first viewing I thought it was in his hand. But glad I had the replay button cause I wasn't 100% like the C was.

Yep -- at < D-I we're expected to get it right every time, and get raked over the coals if we don't, but we don't have the replay monitor to fall back on. Coaches and media can review the tape and make a leisurely decision, though. Lah me.

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Originally Posted by KJUmp

Good call and a great job selling it.
I don't work 3-man....can someone take me through that crew's coverage for the end of game situation we saw in the video?

FED and NCAAM -- Official opposite table (trail, if there's more than one such official) has the last shot.

NCAAW -- C has the last shot (I prefer this).

All -- all officials should have an opinion.

tjones1 · #27 (**permalink**) Wed Jan 04, 2012, 09:15am

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Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Yep -- at < D-I we're expected to get it right every time, and get raked over the coals if we don't, but we don't have the replay monitor to fall back on. Coaches and media can review the tape and make a leisurely decision, though. Lah me.

FED and NCAAM -- Official opposite table (trail, if there's more than one such official) has the last shot.

NCAAW -- C has the last shot (I prefer this).

All -- all officials should have an opinion.

I think this is very important...everyone be ready to help! Then again, always listen to bob!

KJUmp · #28 (**permalink**) Wed Jan 04, 2012, 11:03am

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Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Yep -- at < D-I we're expected to get it right every time, and get raked over the coals if we don't, but we don't have the replay monitor to fall back on. Coaches and media can review the tape and make a leisurely decision, though. Lah me.

FED and NCAAM -- Official opposite table (trail, if there's more than one such official) has the last shot.

NCAAW -- C has the last shot (I prefer this).

All -- all officials should have an opinion.

So should the trail have been making the call in the video as opposed to the C?
Maybe he was (along with the C), but you can't see the trail at that point in the video.
Could the crew in their pre-game, discussed using the NCAAW coverage for a last second shot?

Rich · #29 (**permalink**) Wed Jan 04, 2012, 11:07am

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Originally Posted by KJUmp

So should the trail have been making the call in the video as opposed to the C?
Maybe he was (along with the C), but you can't see the trail at that point in the video.
Could the crew have pre-gamed using the NCAAW coverage?

No. The center is opposite the table. It's his all the way.

I've never worked the NCAAW mechanic in a high school game and would never dream of doing so.

Personally, I like the NFHS mechanic better. It's only when I work with NCAAW officials do I get into a prolonged discussion of whether we need to "lock down." The NFHS mechanic allows the lead to initiate rotations whenever he/she wants (up through the final horn) and the rotation does NOT change the last shot responsibility unless the ball goes the other way.

ga314ref · #30 (**permalink**) Wed Jan 04, 2012, 11:47am

...but I have a made basket.