Uncalled Cheap Shots

[Kingsman1288]

Originally Posted by Brad

During the Connell game, the referees were shocked at what they saw, which is why they hesitated on making any major calls early on in the game.

He who hesitates is lost.

Especially in officiating.

I can MAYBE understand hesitating one time in the beginning, but to hesitate on all of them over the course of the game? That's awful, and the fact that it was used as an excuse is even worse.

[just another ref]

Sometimes they really can't help it. Tonight, BV, had a kid with a similar build and similar athletic ability to #34, but not as big. Early second half, trying to cut off the baseline, big collision caused the offensive player, who was airborne, to land awkwardly. He left the game with an ankle injury. As he was helped off, the fouler looked at me, obviously guilt stricken, "My bad."
With 1.6 seconds left in the game, this same kid undercut another player who was flying in to try for a rebound. The flyer crashed hard to the floor and did not get up. I was told that the injured player was just returning to action after suffering a broken back in a car accident. We ended the game at this point and met an ambulance just down the road from the school. I'm certain that this last play was an accident.

The injured player was a teammate.

[Bad Zebra]

"The Washington Interscholastic Activities Association has reviewed the incident, and is satisfied with how the school districts and local officials group handled the situation."

Doesn't really tell us much. It would be nice to learn about how the local association did handle it, but I wouldn't expect that to be made public. Anyone here close to this area? Were there ANY disciplinary actions on the officials at all?

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Bad Zebra

Were there ANY disciplinary actions on the officials at all?

They have to wear belted pants next season. That will relegate them to a season of freshman high school, and middle school games.

[SNIPERBBB]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

They have to wear belted pants next season. That will relegate them to a season of GIRLS freshman high school, and GIRLS middle school games.

Think this is better(worse)

[Proto]

Originally Posted by Bad Zebra

"The Washington Interscholastic Activities Association has reviewed the incident, and is satisfied with how the school districts and local officials group handled the situation."

Doesn't really tell us much. It would be nice to learn about how the local association did handle it, but I wouldn't expect that to be made public. Anyone here close to this area? Were there ANY disciplinary actions on the officials at all?

I know several officials in that association and have heard quite a bit. There is really nothing the State can do. Bad officiating and judgment is not a hangable offense, and local control takes precedence. Nothing was done by their association at all. Leadership said, "We all saw the video. No need to talk about it.". And they did not. They did assign two of the officials to playoff games. But they told the State they would deal with it, so what else can they say? That association used to be great and develop officials like Dick Cartmell, but for some reason the great ones walked away en masse a few years ago and it has really gone downhill quickly. Those officials would have been removed from Varsity ball for the remainder of the year in our group.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Proto

I know several officials in that association and have heard quite a bit. There is really nothing the State can do. Bad officiating and judgment is not a hangable offense, and local control takes precedence. Nothing was done by their association at all. Leadership said, "We all saw the video. No need to talk about it.". And they did not. They did assign two of the officials to playoff games. But they told the State they would deal with it, so what else can they say? That association used to be great and develop officials like Dick Cartmell, but for some reason the great ones walked away en masse a few years ago and it has really gone downhill quickly. Those officials would have been removed from Varsity ball for the remainder of the year in our group.

Your organization would have removed officials from games based on a produced and edited video put on YouTube?

Peace

[zakman2005000]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Your organization would have removed officials from games based on a produced and edited video put on YouTube?

Peace

Associations in our area don't assign games but based on the video alone, I think most assigners would have some consequences for the crew..IMO.

[zm1283]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Your organization would have removed officials from games based on a produced and edited video put on YouTube?

Peace

The association can get the full video if need be.

[Brad]

Originally Posted by zm1283

The association can get the full video if need be.

If high school associations start removing officials for every game they screw up or rule they get wrong, they may well end up not having anybody left!!!

[Adam]

Originally Posted by zm1283

The association can get the full video if need be.

Sure, but Proto didn't say anything about having the full video and made a declarative statement about what his association would have done based, as far as we know, on the edited video we've all seen.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by zm1283

The association can get the full video if need be.

It is one thing if they get the entire video, but I would hope not based on a Youtube bias video they would not. I could see future games being reconsidered and maybe the type of games for the officials in the future as well, but not taking them off their schedule that season without some review of other aspects of that game. And certainly not from a video where many people cannot even agree on what should have been called.

Peace

[Bad Zebra]

Originally Posted by just another ref

... I was told that the injured player was just returning to action after suffering a broken back in a car accident. We ended the game at this point and met an ambulance just down the road from the school...

This is horrible. I can't think of a worse way to end a game.