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Old Wed Jan 04, 2012, 04:41pm
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Not when the injury happens on play #7 at the hands of #34 with plays #1 - #6 preceding them as in this example. At some point, the officials, having not properly addressed the prior plays, will have exposed themselves to more trouble than just losing games.

It may not be enough for criminal conviction, but civil cases have a much lower threshold.
Criminal conviction is not even a remote possibility here.

The issue in a civil matter is negligence. And in many states, a plantiff in a case like this would have to prove not just negligence but that the actions of the official(s) were either reckless or willful and wanton.

Of course the complete lack of control of the game demonstrated by the officials in the video could leave themselves open to litigation. But I agree with JRut in that we are making too much of that, and do so in general in these types of discussions.

As Tomegun stated earlier, I think the focus should be on the awful job of officiating these guys did, not from a liability standpoint, but from the standpoint of officials and taking pride in doing a good, professional, and compotent job in the services that we offer.

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Old Wed Jan 04, 2012, 04:43pm
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... the actions of the official(s) were either reckless or willful and wonton.
Great now you've got to go inject chinese food into this...who's hungry? Snaqs is buying.
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Old Wed Jan 04, 2012, 04:45pm
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Great now you've got to go inject chinese food into this...who's hungry? Snaqs is buying.
Lol. Still at work hungry before my 7:30 tip tonite.

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Old Wed Jan 04, 2012, 04:48pm
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The issue in a civil matter is negligence. And in many states, a plantiff in a case like this would have to prove not just negligence but that the actions of the official(s) were either reckless or willful and wanton.
As an expert witness with 26 years experience, I will testify that there are no basketball officials in the whole world that are "reckless, willful, and wanton."
There are, however, multitudes of them that simply won't blow the whistle at appropriate times for a variety of reasons inherent to the profession.

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Old Wed Jan 04, 2012, 06:36pm
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Really Camron?

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Criminal conviction is not even a remote possibility here.

The issue in a civil matter is negligence.
Never said nor implied it was. I was only pointing out that civil cases don't require the same level of proof as criminal cases.
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