Shirts (Poll)

[stiffler3492]

In my area, which I think is different from a lot of your areas, there are so many conferences and so many different associations, you don't always work with a partner from the same association. That's why I voted no. The standard stripes are the ones we use, but Illinois recently started embroidering the IHSA logo on the left breast. Some officials have it, some don't. The state hasn't said that the new shirts are mandatory.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by stiffler3492

In my area, which I think is different from a lot of your areas, there are so many conferences and so many different associations, you don't always work with a partner from the same association. That's why I voted no. The standard stripes are the ones we use, but Illinois recently started embroidering the IHSA logo on the left breast. Some officials have it, some don't. The state hasn't said that the new shirts are mandatory.

In fact, they've specifically said that they are not mandatory, and that the crew can mix and match (old-style patch, embroidered sleeve, embroidered sleeve-and-chest)

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by stiffler3492

In my area, which I think is different from a lot of your areas, there are so many conferences and so many different associations, you don't always work with a partner from the same association. That's why I voted no. The standard stripes are the ones we use, but Illinois recently started embroidering the IHSA logo on the left breast. Some officials have it, some don't. The state hasn't said that the new shirts are mandatory.

There still is a standard. Everyone has the same patch or embroidery on their shirt. We also cannot wear the side-panel shirt. No conference has an individual shirt or patch to wear. Official Associations do no assigning so they cannot override the state. And like you said we work with so many different people and places it would make no sense to have different officials groups doing different things.

Peace

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

In fact, they've specifically said that they are not mandatory, and that the crew can mix and match (old-style patch, embroidered sleeve, embroidered sleeve-and-chest)

Originally Posted by JRutledge

There still is a standard. Everyone has the same patch or embroidery on their shirt.

There would seem to be a contradiction.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

There would seem to be a contradiction.

Here is what is required. Officials must wear a patch on their left sleeve (properly placed of course) if they are IHSA officials. A few years ago they allowed a company to add a embroidery "patch" in the place of the typical patch. They also allowed that same company to put on embroidery on the left chest "pocket" area as well.

What Bob is talking about it is allowed that if one official has the traditional blue patch, another official can have the embroidery on the sleeve and the other officials could have the sleeve and chest embroidered and it would be OK. And the reason was they did not want officials to feel compelled to go out and buy new stuff just to fit with every official they work with. As was stated we all do not work with the same people from the same places or sometimes the same people in a conference, so it would be expensive for someone to have all styles.

All that is required is something be on the left sleeve of the shirt and they type of "patch" is optional as well as the other types of embroidery.

It was really not a contradiction, I just was not clear what was required.

Peace

[Rich]

We are expected to wear shirts with no side panel. No patches (other than an American flag, which is optional and placed on the sleeve) are allowed or expected. I have some issues with WI being behind the times (especially in how they handled the whole 3-person officiating thing), but they're spot on by not requiring patches on shirts.

[JugglingReferee]

Uniforms should be a state thing.

[Bad Zebra]

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee

Uniforms should be a state thing.

+1

Local associations shouldn't dictate uniform rules. They can't for players' unis and they shouldn't for officials.

[fullor30]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

We are expected to wear shirts with no side panel. No patches (other than an American flag, which is optional and placed on the sleeve) are allowed or expected. I have some issues with WI being behind the times (especially in how they handled the whole 3-person officiating thing), but they're spot on by not requiring patches on shirts.

I've chided you before on no patches(patches? we don't need no stinkin' patches)

I prefer one simple small state patch on sleeve, it shows you're legit. No patch to me implies I work at footlocker.

2 man and no patch? At least you have Zigs and the Packers.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by fullor30

I prefer one simple small state patch on sleeve, it shows you're legit. No patch to me implies I work at footlocker.

Guys, and gals, who pass the written test, and the floor test, in the November, work without an IAABO patch throughout their first season. They don't get their IAABO patch until our business meeting in March. Some coaches, and fans, know this and will make comments about rookie mistakes.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by fullor30

I've chided you before on no patches(patches? we don't need no stinkin' patches)

I prefer one simple small state patch on sleeve, it shows you're legit. No patch to me implies I work at footlocker.

I went to the Badgers game yesterday and I didn't see a patch. I'm certain those guys are legit.

When I work a HS varsity game or a junior college game, I don't think anyone has any problem whatsoever understanding that we're there to work a game and not sell shoes.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by fullor30

I prefer one simple small state patch on sleeve, it shows you're legit.

How?

Honig's, GD, et al, don't ask me for my IHSA number before I order a shirt.

You can take the test once, get a patch, and then never take a test / go to a meeting again. That's hardly legit.

I'm certain that someone could get a patch "from a friend" without ever taking a test / registering with the IHSA.

Schools and assigners know that only IHSA registered officials are to be used. Most (well, mnay) assigners check. That's the control -- not a stupid piece of stichery.

[fullor30]

Originally Posted by stiffler3492

In my area, which I think is different from a lot of your areas, there are so many conferences and so many different associations, you don't always work with a partner from the same association. That's why I voted no. The standard stripes are the ones we use, but Illinois recently started embroidering the IHSA logo on the left breast. Some officials have it, some don't. The state hasn't said that the new shirts are mandatory.

Partially true. I believe just one supplier chose to have two position embroidery of same logo on same side of shirt, which is pretty silly. Most suppliers have left sleeve logo. IMHO other shirt looks like something out of nascar.