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Old Thu Dec 22, 2011, 03:25pm
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I check with the official scorebook during the timeout, and tell the HC after the timeout has ended. That way I know I'm not wrong.
Many areas don't do this. I agree with those who don't. There's no need to volunteer this information, and sometimes the scorekeeper gives the incorrect information, and soemtimes the official reports it wrong and sometimes the coach hears it incorrectly.

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That's correct, when reporting to the table "Blue 24, Hit" with the signal. On the East Coast, "Blue 24, Illegal Use" with the proper signal.

According to the IAABO mechanics book it is an Illegal use of hands mechanic, so it makes sense the way they do it there.
Many (most?) areas just "Blue, 24" signal (no voice), "two shots" (or whatever).
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Old Thu Dec 22, 2011, 03:29pm
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Many areas don't do this. I agree with those who don't. There's no need to volunteer this information, and sometimes the scorekeeper gives the incorrect information, and soemtimes the official reports it wrong and sometimes the coach hears it incorrectly.
This is one of those areas where I'm sure you're right (about it being best practice), but I do it anyway. For the most part, I keep track of the timeouts used in my head (I want to remember if a team is out of 30s or 60s cause it makes TO administration easier, IMO) and if I ask the scorer, it's just to verify that I'm right.
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Old Thu Dec 22, 2011, 03:34pm
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This is one of those areas where I'm sure you're right (about it being best practice), but I do it anyway. For the most part, I keep track of the timeouts used in my head (I want to remember if a team is out of 30s or 60s cause it makes TO administration easier, IMO) and if I ask the scorer, it's just to verify that I'm right.
We have discussed this before and have had a great debate about it. I do not seek out any timeout information. If the table tells me they are out and the nature of our mechanic to go to the bench and stay there, I might tell them they are out. But I do not want to go out of my way just to give them this information. If the table never tells me I am OK with that. These teams have people that keep track of that, I would rather they do their job and communicate to their team, not have officials do it for them. Half the time when I ask a coach what kind of time out they want, they already know what they have left.

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Old Thu Dec 22, 2011, 03:34pm
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This is one of those areas where I'm sure you're right (about it being best practice), but I do it anyway. For the most part, I keep track of the timeouts used in my head (I want to remember if a team is out of 30s or 60s cause it makes TO administration easier, IMO) and if I ask the scorer, it's just to verify that I'm right.
Oh, I agree officials should know this. I just don't volunteer the information to the coach (until it gets to zero).
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Old Thu Dec 22, 2011, 03:40pm
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I do it cause that's how I was taught, never realized or noticed a difference. I will not voice the signal on my next game and watch the film on it. I may end up liking not voicing the signal more.
That is actually how I was originally taught as well. But we evolve sometimes and decide to try something else. There really is not a right or wrong with this.

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Old Thu Dec 22, 2011, 03:47pm
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I do not try to keep track of timeouts throughout the game and would rather a partner NOT tell me when they are or come back from the table and say "white has 2 fulls and a 30 and blue has 3 fulls." I just smile and kinda think, good for them.

End of the game, yes I will make sure I know if they have 1 or Zero left. That's all I want to need and know.

As for verbalizing signals I really don't say anything other than maybe "body" with the push mechanic on plays to make sure people know where the contact was if up top was clean. I think sometimes I do say, "hit" on the illegal use of hands signal. Probably out of habit but I don't do it nearly as often as I use to.

ETA- The one signal verbalized more often than not by me and those I observe is on Player Control.

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Old Thu Dec 22, 2011, 03:50pm
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The only value I see in keeping track of timeouts is to help expedite the process if I know a coach is out of one type or the other. When I know that, I don't have to bother asking which one they want.
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