Charge, After Charge, After Charge

[letemplay]

I believe I see too many fouls on the offense, when defense gets there too late (imo), toe taps in front of an offensive player and takes it in the chest. I believe it hurts the game of basketball. I'm aware many will disagree, but the offensive player should have a reasonable chance to change direction, and I don't see that happening on some of these calls. You can debate just exactly what is "reasonable".

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by letemplay

I believe I see too many fouls on the offense, when defense gets there too late (imo), toe taps in front of an offensive player and takes it in the chest. I believe it hurts the game of basketball. I'm aware many will disagree, but the offensive player should have a reasonable chance to change direction, and I don't see that happening on some of these calls. You can debate just exactly what is "reasonable".

Here is the problem with your position, it is not supported by any rule. The rules on LGP said there is no time and distance as long as they have established LGP and maintain contact and they can move. If the offense cannot avoid the contact, the defense is not responsible. I will never call it the way you say unless they change the rule. And I doubt they will change the rule in this case. But this is the reason we have a lot of inconsistency in this application. Actually these calls are very easy if you referee the defense. But defense should be allowed to play the game too.

Peace

[Rich]

Originally Posted by letemplay

I believe I see too many fouls on the offense, when defense gets there too late (imo), toe taps in front of an offensive player and takes it in the chest. I believe it hurts the game of basketball. I'm aware many will disagree, but the offensive player should have a reasonable chance to change direction, and I don't see that happening on some of these calls. You can debate just exactly what is "reasonable".

Define "too late." By rule, that means "unable to establish or maintain legal guarding position." I have no clue what you mean "toe taps."

The offensive player should be allowed to change direction -- are you saying that the defensive player shouldn't be allowed to do so as well in order to play defense?

I'm with the rest of the officials here -- I call a lot of player control fouls.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by letemplay

I believe I see too many fouls on the offense, when defense gets there too late (imo), toe taps in front of an offensive player and takes it in the chest. I believe it hurts the game of basketball. I'm aware many will disagree, but the offensive player should have a reasonable chance to change direction, and I don't see that happening on some of these calls. You can debate just exactly what is "reasonable".

If you're saying "what it SHOULD BE" -- well, you're entitled to your opinion.

If you're giving your interpretation of "what it IS" -- well, you're wrong. Almost all of what you say is contrary to the current rules.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by letemplay

I believe I see too many fouls on the offense, when defense gets there too late (imo), toe taps in front of an offensive player and takes it in the chest. I believe it hurts the game of basketball. I'm aware many will disagree, but the offensive player should have a reasonable chance to change direction, and I don't see that happening on some of these calls. You can debate just exactly what is "reasonable".

How do you define "too late" and what do you mean by "toe taps?" It's pretty tough to take it in the torso if the defender gets there too late.