What would you do?

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by just another ref

If your partner jumped off the Empire State Building, would you jump off the Empire State Building?

Hi Mom.

[twocentsworth]

Originally Posted by tref

So... HS pregame, your partners states that he "doesnt like defenders sliding under the rim to take charges. It causes many injuries to the airborne shooter." So he will be calling that play like an arc play

My response: "Are you talking about a defender who slides in AFTER the shooter has left the floor? - which is a block - or are you talking about a defender who has established LGP under the rim - which would be a charge?

Partner: "Both."

My response: "OK. Can I ask what other rules you aren't going to follow tonight? 3pt line? 5 players for each team? Traveling?"........

then I would wait for his lame excuse...and go work the game like I normally do.

when a coach complains to me that my call wasn't consistent with the previous call, i would just him "that was clearly a charge. feel free to talk to my partner about his calls. he'll be happy to give you his explanation".

[dave30]

Turn it into a "blarge" !

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Hi Mom.

So sorry. Had no idea your mother had jumped off the Empire State Building.

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by fiasco

Wait, I thought it was supposed to be a bridge. I don't have my parenting manual with me.

It's in the IAABO parenting manual.

[TheOracle]

[QUOTE=tref;804743]What I learned (already knew) was that I need to speak up when I dont agree with something said in pregame, no matter who says it!![QUOTE]

If the guy has "major cred" witht he coaches, it's not going to be an issue for you or the crew, and the rest of the story from that game seems to bear that out. People like that are not going to change their minds or opinions if you "speak your mind" in a pre-game. It is really, really hard to change others unless they are open to it. Even if they are 100% wrong, unless they are aware that they are penalized for doing so, either by their assignments or respect from partners/coaches, they will never change, and you get nothing in return for your efforts.

Officiating is supposed to be black and white, but like life, it never really is. The question you pose is great: what should I do in that situation. Unfortunately, there is no best answer. Sounds like you should just call the rule book and live with the inconsistency. Nobody goes out there and tries to do the wrong thing: by trying to be consistent you would be doing what you think is wrong per the rule book. At least you will then feel good about yourself, and have controlled what you can.

[tref]

Originally Posted by TheOracle

Officiating is supposed to be black and white, but like life, it never really is. The question you pose is great: what should I do in that situation. Unfortunately, there is no best answer. Sounds like you should just call the rule book and live with the inconsistency. Nobody goes out there and tries to do the wrong thing: by trying to be consistent you would be doing what you think is wrong per the rule book. At least you will then feel good about yourself, and have controlled what you can.

Yes, on my next two games with this partner I will let it be known that I'm calling the HS game by HS rules.

[BillyMac]

Whenever I work a high school game with a partner who works both high school and college games, the partner who insists on using college rules, and mechanics, usually turns out to be a pretty bad high school official, and a pretty bad college, official.

And, whenever I work a high school game with a partner who works both high school and college games, the partner who insists on using high school rules, and mechanics, usually turns out to be a pretty good high school official, and a pretty good college official.

Funny?

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by just another ref

If your partner jumped off the Empire State Building, would you jump off the Empire State Building?

Many, many years ago, I saw the Smothers Brothers in Las Vegas. Dickie asked Tommy, "If everyone else jumped off a cliff, would you jump off a cliff, too?" Tommy replied, "Hunh - not again".