Crazy ending

[Chris Whitten]

Is it possible the TO request was made by ASSISTANT coaches and, therefore, not granted? Nothing in the post saying HC requested it. Sounds like the officials have solid rules standing all around on this one.

[Rich]

Instead of finding a reason to defend the officials, I'll say this:

I can't imagine calling a FT violation here *unless* I didn't hear the timeout request.

And agree with Snaq: I don't know how someone is getting a technical with them getting my back as I'm quickly leaving the court.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

Instead of finding a reason to defend the officials, I'll say this:

I can't imagine calling a FT violation here *unless* I didn't hear the timeout request.

And agree with Snaq: I don't know how someone is getting a technical with them getting my back as I'm quickly leaving the court.

1) It's possible it was requested (well) after the shooter had the ball. It can't be granted then, and if the shooter violates you have to enforce it -- otherwise the team gets an advantage (the TO, plus still getting to shoot the FT). That said, if I wasn't going to grant it, I'd try to say so aloud to prevent the violation.

2) I've had a coach block my path to the exit before. Too bad, that made it his second T and then he had to sit a game.

[Adam]

bob, on #1, if the shooter's head coach requests it, it can be granted.

#2, that's why I'd like to see the video, to see if the officials were lingering or if the coach made a heroic effort to lose the game.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

D'oh. I was thinking the defense.

1000 lashes with a wet rules book page.

[bainsey]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

I can't imagine calling a FT violation here *unless* I didn't hear the timeout request.

That's the only rationale I have. Beyond that, shame on the A/C for berating the official. That's a hard way to learn that rule.

By the way, Rook, can you post a link to this? I'm having difficulty believing it was written by a Chicago Sun Times writer. It looks more like a forum item. Was it?

[dsqrddgd909]

Originally Posted by bainsey

That's the only rationale I have. Beyond that, shame on the A/C for berating the official. That's a hard way to learn that rule.

By the way, Rook, can you post a link to this? I'm having difficulty believing it was written by a Chicago Sun Times writer. It looks more like a forum item. Was it?

Win suits Blue Devils to a ?T? - Lake County News-Sun

Local paper owned by Chicago sun-Times I'm surmising.

[bainsey]

Thanks. It appears that a stringer wrote this. It's a little sloppy in places.

Anyway, this quote from the assitant coach intrigues me...

“If you have a beef with me, punish me. Don’t punish the kids. I can take it.”

Thoughts?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by bainsey

Thoughts?

Coach-speak, not worth a response. He may as well b1tch about the foul count.

[slow whistle]

Originally Posted by bainsey

Thanks. It appears that a stringer wrote this. It's a little sloppy in places.

Anyway, this quote from the assitant coach intrigues me...



Thoughts?

Yeah I love that - what mechanism exactly does an official have to punish an assistant coach other than a T? Report to the state? Sorry coach you made your bed, you are the one who should be apologizing profusely to your team and the officials..own it, be an example to your team.

[fiasco]

FWIW, the newspaper report says that "Mattucci went immediately to the ref and the resulting “discussion” led to him getting T’d up."

So, sounds to me like the coach went out of his way to find the ref as soon as the buzzer sounded. What a tool.

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by bainsey

Thanks. It appears that a stringer wrote this. It's a little sloppy in places.

Anyway, this quote from the assitant coach intrigues me...

Thoughts?

"If you have a beef with the officials, deal with it in a mature and responsible way. Don't do something that by rule will result in a technical foul against your team. That seems selfish, undisciplined, and juvenile."

[The_Rookie]

Originally Posted by bainsey

That's the only rationale I have. Beyond that, shame on the A/C for berating the official. That's a hard way to learn that rule.

By the way, Rook, can you post a link to this? I'm having difficulty believing it was written by a Chicago Sun Times writer. It looks more like a forum item. Was it?

Full story link below:

Girls Basketball: Warren downs Zion-Benton in bizarre finish - YourSeason

[rockyroad]

Why was the ref "handing" the ball to the shooter? What mechanics set still does that?

And I will agree with others...Assistant Matuccis should have kept his mouth shut and his team would have won. He cost those girls the game.

[fullor30]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

Why was the ref "handing" the ball to the shooter? What mechanics set still does that?

And I will agree with others...Assistant Matuccis should have kept his mouth shut and his team would have won. He cost those girls the game.

heard from ref this morning, there is no way he 'handed' ball to shooter, you're going on a reporters jargon, three very good officials, coach had it coming. I've officiated there before, bench is by exit to locker room so possible coach ambushed him.


Lesson learned though, tight game with possible repercussions after buzzer, my head is down getting my butt out of confines.

Also heard it was a little dicey leaving the school