Problem with a coach

[fiasco]

Originally Posted by deecee

sports, especially competitive ones, are not about equality, and parents that feel that they are are doing their kids a disservice.

Well, this isn't entirely accurate. Some leagues are explicitly set up with the understanding that kids are going to get playing time. That way, if your kid sucks, they still get to get out there and get some exercise. With obesity rates the way they are, that's not exactly a bad thing you know.

Once you get to the high school level, though, all bets on playing time are off. As it should be.

[Newbie77]

Originally Posted by deecee

IF the parents or school dont like it they can replace the coach. other than that its his team to run as he sees fit, or the powers that be deal with him.

sports, especially competitive ones, are not about equality, and parents that feel that they are are doing their kids a disservice.

I am not saying that the girls should all have equal play time. Not at all. What I am saying is that I agree with the parents that all the girls should at least get some time to play. After all, I don't think parents pay $150-200 plus shoes & shooting shirts to see their child sit on the bench cuz the coach deems them hopeless. The only way they are going to learn how to play is if he works with those players in practice more & puts them in the games cuz that is where so much is learned. After all this is only 8th grade & it's a "no-cut" league so girls have the opportunity to learn the game.

[dsqrddgd909]

Has someone approached the coach directly, school's AD (if there is one), the principal? Did the coach have a pre-season meeting with the parents?

[Newbie77]

Originally Posted by dsqrddgd909

Has someone approached the coach directly, school's AD (if there is one), the principal? Did the coach have a pre-season meeting with the parents?

The coach did have a very brief meeting with the parents after the second practice. It last all of 10 minutes at most.

After, the first game (the girls have now played 5 games) a parent did approach the coach with her concerns. She stated that one of the girls that he benched was a very good ball handler & although he has never coach that player before she could be a good asset to the team. He was even very demeaning to her & stated that he was the coach & she was not. (that game the girls lost. They had more fouls then points. The girls had no plays & looked awful. They only scoreed 16 points but had 18 fouls)

That same parent also talked to one of the heads of the athletic dept since her talk with the coach went so bad but still no changes been noticed. I am advising the parents to write up a coral complaint to the athletic assoc. and the principal.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Newbie77

The coach did have a very brief meeting with the parents after the second practice. It last all of 10 minutes at most.

After, the first game (the girls have now played 5 games) a parent did approach the coach with her concerns. She stated that one of the girls that he benched was a very good ball handler & although he has never coach that player before she could be a good asset to the team. He was even very demeaning to her & stated that he was the coach & she was not. (that game the girls lost. They had more fouls then points. The girls had no plays & looked awful. They only scoreed 16 points but had 18 fouls)

That same parent also talked to one of the heads of the athletic dept since her talk with the coach went so bad but still no changes been noticed. I am advising the parents to write up a coral complaint to the athletic assoc. and the principal.

If the league has a mandatory participation rule then the individual talents of the players should not be part of the discussions with the coach on this subject.

[JRutledge]

I have a novel idea. How about let your kid work hard and teach them that not everyone is going to give them something? Parents in my opinion are ruining kids sports by complaining about everything instead of using those opportunities to teach them values of life. When I was that age if you could not play you did not play in the games. Playing games does not keep you kids from practicing hard or working on their games. Life is not fair and sometimes you have to work harder to get what you want.

Peace

[Adam]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I have a novel idea. How about let your kid work hard and teach them that not everyone is going to give them something? Parents in my opinion are ruining kids sports by complaining about everything instead of using those opportunities to teach them values of life. When I was that age if you could not play you did not play in the games. Playing games does not keep you kids from practicing hard or working on their games. Life is not fair and sometimes you have to work harder to get what you want.

Peace

Exactly. If you want to give her more playing time, you should get her into a Y league or an AAU league or something. Give her a chance to work on her game in the off season. Build her conditioning.

[kwatson]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I have a novel idea. How about let your kid work hard and teach them that not everyone is going to give them something? Parents in my opinion are ruining kids sports by complaining about everything instead of using those opportunities to teach them values of life. When I was that age if you could not play you did not play in the games. Playing games does not keep you kids from practicing hard or working on their games. Life is not fair and sometimes you have to work harder to get what you want.

Peace

+1, BRAVO Sir

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Parents in my opinion are ruining kids sports by complaining about everything instead of using those opportunities to teach them values of life. When I was that age if you could not play you did not play in the games. Playing games does not keep you kids from practicing hard or working on their games. Life is not fair and sometimes you have to work harder to get what you want.

These are called "helicopter parents", they hover around their kids. The main reason why I gave up coaching a few years ago.

My son teaches college Sociology. He has had parents of his college students call him to complain, comment, ask questions, ask for deadline extensions, etc. And this is college.

As a ninth grader, I was the twelfth man on a twelve man ninth grade team. I only got to play when we had a comfortable lead, late in the game. As a teenager, I played recreation league baseball, an average, or slightly below average fielder, couldn't hit a fastball to save my life. I seldom played. If I ever complained to my father about playing time, and if I had asked him to approach the coach for me, he would have either told me to, "Shut up", or he would have told me to go and talk to the coach myself.

Yes sometimes kids are abused in these situations, and the parents need to be an advocate for their kids, but it has gotten way out of hand.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

If the league has a mandatory participation rule then the individual talents of the players should not be part of the discussions with the coach on this subject.

Right, and if there isn't, then the coach is right. Parents trying to second guess the coach's talent assessment has got to be the primary reason people don't want to coach youth sports.

[Newbie77]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

If the league has a mandatory participation rule then the individual talents of the players should not be part of the discussions with the coach on this subject.

I don't think she knew what the league rules were at the time of that conversation with the coach. She was told by the head of the Athletic Assoc.. that he believed that coaches were to try to play each player for about a quarter. If a player doesn't play in one game the coach needs to try to play her for 2 quarters in the next league game.

If that is true, then this is not being followed & needs to be corrected.

[Ignats75]

Originally Posted by Newbie77

She was told by the head of the Athletic Assoc.. that he believed that coaches were to try to play each player for about a quarter. If a player doesn't play in one game the coach needs to try to play her for 2 quarters in the next league game.

Kind of like how our government handles money. SOrry. I'll leave now.