"Odd" Prep School Rules ???

[BillyMac]

I observed a girls junior varsity prep school game today. Connecticut prep school use an "odd" hybrid version using both NFHS and NCAA rules. The visiting team, wearing white, I told you the rules were "odd", has a player wearing the numeral 02, another 03, and another 05. Are these numerals legal in any rule set?

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

I observed a girls junior varsity prep school game today. Connecticut prep school use an "odd" hybrid version using both NFHS and NCAA rules. The visiting team, wearing white, I told you the rules were "odd", has a player wearing the numeral 02, another 03, and another 05. Are these numerals legal in any rule set?

int c = 5;

is the same as

int c = 05;

But

char string[50] = "05";

is not the same as

char string[50] = "5";

[grunewar]

nuf sed

[26 Year Gap]

Originally Posted by grunewar

nuf sed

Maybe even more.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by grunewar

Nuf sed

From the NFHS: Each team member shall be numbered on the front and back of the team jersey with plain Arabic numerals. The following numbers are legal: 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 00, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 40, 41, 42, 43, 44, 45, 50, 51, 52, 53, 54, 55. A team member list shall not have both numbers 0 and 00.

I think that this means that since the "number" 2 is legal, then 02 would also be legal. But the last line, with the word "both" seems to indicate that 0 and 00 are not the same "numbers", when according to mathematics, they actually are the same number. I'm not referring to "spirit and purpose" here (computer statistics), I'm just referring to the rule language. As I was watching the game, I checked my rule book. 02 was not listed as legal. My first thought was that it must be illegal, but then I started thinking about the rule language (numbers, numerals, 0 and 00). If there was both a 2, and an 02, that would probably be illegal, but I'm not quite sure why, because 02 is illegal, or because 2 and 02 are duplicates. But just a single 02, no 2, I'm on the fence, which is why I'm asking about rule sets other than the NFHS.

From JugglingReferee: char string [50] = "05" is not the same as char string [50] = "5".

Sorry, I don't speak code, nor do I speak Canadian metric system code. Does this mean that the NFHS considers 02 (alone) to be a legal, or an illegal, number (numeral)? grunewar, and 26 Year Gap, both agree with JugglingReferee. I'm just not sure what JugglingReferee answer to my question was. The single number 02, legal, or illegal, in any rule set?

[bob jenkins]

By a strict reading, 02 would be illegal.

I wouldn't be a plumber about it.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

By a strict reading, 02 would be illegal. I wouldn't be a plumber about it.

Nor would I. Just one of those book learnin' situations.

[26 Year Gap]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

From the NFHS: Each team member shall be numbered on the front and back of the team jersey with plain Arabic numerals. The following numbers are legal: 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 00, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 40, 41, 42, 43, 44, 45, 50, 51, 52, 53, 54, 55. A team member list shall not have both numbers 0 and 00.

I think that this means that since the "number" 2 is legal, then 02 would also be legal. But the last line, with the word "both" seems to indicate that 0 and 00 are not the same "numbers", when according to mathematics, they actually are the same number. I'm not referring to "spirit and purpose" here (computer statistics), I'm just referring to the rule language. As I was watching the game, I checked my rule book. 02 was not listed as legal. My first thought was that it must be illegal, but then I started thinking about the rule language (numbers, numerals, 0 and 00). If there was both a 2, and an 02, that would probably be illegal, but I'm not quite sure why, because 02 is illegal, or because 2 and 02 are duplicates. But just a single 02, no 2, I'm on the fence, which is why I'm asking about rule sets other than the NFHS.

From JugglingReferee: char string [50] = "05" is not the same as char string [50] = "5".

Sorry, I don't speak code, nor do I speak Canadian metric system code. Does this mean that the NFHS considers 02 (alone) to be a legal, or an illegal, number (numeral)? grunewar, and 26 Year Gap, both agree with JugglingReferee. I'm just not sure what JugglingReferee answer to my question was. The single number 02, legal, or illegal, in any rule set?

fwiw, I was agreeing with grunewar that it was Overly Officious Calculating.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by 26 Year Gap

I was agreeing with grunewar that it was Overly Officious Calculating.

And I still can't figure out what JugglingReferee was trying to say. I don't know whether to agree with him, or to disagree with him, or to agree to disagree with him, or to disagree to agree with him.

[silverpie]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

I observed a girls junior varsity prep school game today. Connecticut prep school use an "odd" hybrid version using both NFHS and NCAA rules. The visiting team, wearing white, I told you the rules were "odd", has a player wearing the numeral 02, another 03, and another 05. Are these numerals legal in any rule set?

Iowa girls. (This is done, I think, to allow more players, because IGHSAU also restricts one team to odd numbers and the other to even.)

[jdmara]

Originally Posted by silverpie

Iowa girls. (This is done, I think, to allow more players, because IGHSAU also restricts one team to odd numbers and the other to even.)

Disagree silverpie...

The Iowa Girls adaptation does not include odd and even anymore. In fact, the legality of 01, 02... is expiring this season. Starting next fall the numbering system will be in line with NFHS.

-Josh

[silverpie]

Thanks for the update.