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Old Sun Dec 11, 2011, 06:45pm
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I concur with the earlier statements where officials feel good about "getting out unscathed" without any T's even when they are warranted.

You don't have anything to lose with hitting both trash talkers with "T"s or in the case of #52, just whacking him and going to the POI. The grabbing of the shorts should have been a Flagrant 1 and sent the message that the presence of the crew needed to be respected by the "gangstas" on the court for both teams.

Once again allowing small things to get into big ones by being afraid of warning benches, issuing technical fouls, or addressing legitimate concerns of coaches about conduct.
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Old Sun Dec 11, 2011, 07:59pm
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The player who grabbed...

...the shorts of 5 white should have gotten an IF, but when 5 white started playing to the crowd, he should have gotten a T. I think I understand the entertainment value some try to put on these games, but it seems to me the officials should have shown a lot more awareness of the situation, and handled it with a stronger court presence -- which sometimes means Ts and ejections.

I'm starting to believe a lot of officials are beginning to be intimidated by the players and their "roles" as entertainers. Situations like this should be a wake-up call for all involved. These are non-professional events, and there's a privilege to being a participant in them.

And for Mr. Hohn, what exactly makes one a "gangsta"? If you can't explain it, don't call it.
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Old Sun Dec 11, 2011, 08:14pm
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...the shorts of 5 white should have gotten an IF, but when 5 white started playing to the crowd, he should have gotten a T. I think I understand the entertainment value some try to put on these games, but it seems to me the officials should have shown a lot more awareness of the situation, and handled it with a stronger court presence -- which sometimes means Ts and ejections.

I'm starting to believe a lot of officials are beginning to be intimidated by the players and their "roles" as entertainers. Situations like this should be a wake-up call for all involved. These are non-professional events, and there's a privilege to being a participant in them.

And for Mr. Hohn, what exactly makes one a "gangsta"? If you can't explain it, don't call it.
I agree on the FF1 on the shorts grab...I wouldn't T the "playing to the crowd." There were plenty of opportunities to stick a player or two for other situations, but I don't think that was one.
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Old Sun Dec 11, 2011, 08:28pm
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I agree on the FF1 on the shorts grab...I wouldn't T the "playing to the crowd." There were plenty of opportunities to stick a player or two for other situations, but I don't think that was one.
Like at halftime.
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Old Sun Dec 11, 2011, 11:46pm
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...And for Mr. Hohn, what exactly makes one a "gangsta"? If you can't explain it, don't call it.

An Xavier player referred to himself and his teammates as "gangstas, but not thugs" in the post game press confeence.
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Old Mon Dec 12, 2011, 02:01am
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An Xavier player referred to himself and his teammates as "gangstas, but not thugs" in the post game press confeence.
I'm willing to bet the moron who said that, if he met some real gangsters, he would piss his pants.
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Old Mon Dec 12, 2011, 02:10am
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An Xavier player referred to himself and his teammates as "gangstas, but not thugs" in the post game press confeence.
This same player also referred to putting his opponents in body bags (we're going to zip them up).
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I had a real problem with Xavier letting those guys even show at the post game press conference. Their coach should have had those guys on lock down. And the guy making the gansta and body bag comment was non other than Tu Holloway, in my view the main instigator of the thing game long. And then, as of right now, he only gets one (1) game??
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ok, all is forgiven.........

Cincinnati players apologize for fight that marred game

"No matter what was going on, I'm the older guy on the team. I've been here the longest," Gates said. "I should have grabbed the freshmen instead of going out there and throwing punches."

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