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26 Year Gap Sat Dec 10, 2011 02:42pm

suspensions coming?
 
What an end in the Xavier game. A guy kicked a down guy in a brawl. I suspect that there will be a lot of guys missing for some games. Just downright ugly.

BktBallRef Sat Dec 10, 2011 03:07pm

Guys?

Players? Coaches? Substitutes?

26 Year Gap Sat Dec 10, 2011 03:09pm

Could be a multiple of the above. Bench clearing brawl with 9.4 seconds left.

Earlier, with about 3:40 left, Cincinnati committed a bush league foul that EASILY could have been ruled an intentional when the player grabbed and held onto the Xavier player's shorts as he blew by him on a drive. Not sure if that player was involved or not in the major part of the brawl. NOBODY left on either bench.

grunewar Sat Dec 10, 2011 03:42pm

Let's all take a look, shall we......
 
Video: Xavier/Cincinnati brawl

Me thinks #34 Black, is in big trouble for the right cross.......

JRutledge Sat Dec 10, 2011 03:47pm

This is the reason all this showboating, taunting and celebration displays do not go over well with the NCAA and the NF. These things can escalate very quickly and all it takes is the right timing and it is like a spark near a bunch of poring gasoline.

Peace

26 Year Gap Sat Dec 10, 2011 04:02pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by grunewar (Post 803406)
Video: Xavier/Cincinnati brawl

Me thinks #34 Black, is in big trouble for the right cross.......

So, is the stomper. Did they put up the video of the guy yanking the shorts of his opponent who had blown by him on a drive?

grunewar Sat Dec 10, 2011 04:16pm

Half time of the Ohio State vs Kansas game, ESPN showed it from many angles and talked about it for quite a while. Said, #34 (Yancey Gates) should have to sit at least 10 games.

So many involved and off the bench......wow!

Larks Sat Dec 10, 2011 05:04pm

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/D3y0HV1uH2s" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

BktBallRef Sat Dec 10, 2011 06:15pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by grunewar (Post 803406)
Video: Xavier/Cincinnati brawl

Me thinks #34 Black, is in big trouble for the right cross.......

Yep, me agrees.


I pray I never have anything like that happen in a game.

grunewar Sat Dec 10, 2011 07:27pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by BktBallRef (Post 803444)
Yep, me agrees.


I pray I never have anything like that happen in a game.

Agreed.

Had a loose ball in the lane the other night in my GV game the other night. After the scrum, Girl was on all fours in the lane crying, bleeding. Pretty sad to see.

Hope that's it for the yr........

APG Sat Dec 10, 2011 07:49pm

A longer version:

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/iZRV-2Tsn-g" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

KCRC Sat Dec 10, 2011 08:07pm

Here is the postgame press conference from the Cincy coach:

University of Cincinnati Official Athletic Site

I was very impressed with most of his comments. He did make a suggestion that he tried at HT and during the second half to advise the crew that there was a lot of "talking" to his bench by opponent players. Who knows if that is true. He also said that there is no excuse for how his players responded. He made all of his players in the lockerroom take off their jerseys. They won't be allowed to put a Cincy jersey back on until there is a clear understanding of how they are to represent their University.

It will be interesting to see what comes of this.

26 Year Gap Sat Dec 10, 2011 08:07pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer (Post 803466)
A longer version:

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/iZRV-2Tsn-g" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Couldn't open it. Did you find that play late in the second half where the Xavier player blew by his defender and the defender got a fistful of shorts?

dahoopref Sat Dec 10, 2011 08:12pm

I just saw an interesting clip on ESPN's Sportscenter on this.

It's a closeup of #52 (Holloway) from Xavier talking trash to the Cincinnati bench the entire way up the court and Coach Cronin alerting the Trail of the actions; he is asking for a technical foul to be called. All this happens before the initial skirmish that leads to the melee.

This is one of the times where I hope the T should've had game awareness of what was happening and addressed it ASAP. The player's actions erupt in a matter of seconds but perhaps a quick T on #52 could've stopped it initially.

Thoughts?

KCRC Sat Dec 10, 2011 08:21pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by dahoopref (Post 803471)
I just saw an interesting clip on ESPN's Sportscenter on this.

It's a closeup of #52 (Holloway) from Xavier talking trash to the Cincinnati bench the entire way up the court and Coach Cronin alerting the Trail of the actions; he is asking for a technical foul to be called. All this happens before the initial skirmish that leads to the melee.

This is one of the times where I hope the T should've had game awareness of what was happening and addressed it ASAP. The player's actions erupt in a matter of seconds but perhaps a quick T on #52 could've stopped it initially.

Thoughts?

This is a point that Coach Cronin made in his postgame press conference. It appears there was plenty of chirping going on most of the game. Perhaps the crew could have been more aggressive in warning and whacking the talking earlier in the game. Even IF that is true, that is still no excuse to clear the benches and duke it out (a point Coach Cronin made clear in his press conference).


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