Thrower-in delay

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by Loudwhistle2

Can someone point me to where I can find this foul situation to be true. I thought the offense loses the arrow when they foul on an AP throwin?

Thanks

Look at the definition of a throw-in to see when it ends.

[Toren]

Originally Posted by Loudwhistle2

Can someone point me to where I can find this foul situation to be true. I thought the offense loses the arrow when they foul on an AP throwin?

Thanks

6-4-5 is the citation.

[Freddy]

Originally Posted by loudwhistle2

can someone point me to where i can find this foul situation to be true. I thought the offense loses the arrow when they foul on an ap throwin?

6-4-5

[Loudwhistle2]

Originally Posted by Freddy

6-4-5

Thanks guys, blew that last year, not this year!

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Loudwhistle2

Thanks guys, blew that last year, not this year!

Spoken like a true official.

Kind of like, "Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me."

[bainsey]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

I'm guessing the reason the violation by a teammate of the shooter kills the shot is because if the shot goes in there would be no way to penalize the violation.

I'm looking for a parallel here. The only other "offensive" violations I can think of during a try for goal would be basket interference and goaltending. Both of those would kill a shot, so you'd have to same the same for all violations.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by bainsey

I'm looking for a parallel here. The only other "offensive" violations I can think of during a try for goal would be basket interference and goaltending. Both of those would kill a shot, so you'd have to same the same for all violations.

Leaving the court for an unauthorized reason.

[bainsey]

Originally Posted by just another ref

Leaving the court for an unauthorized reason.

Yep, that could kill a shot, too. So, why would elbow swinging be any different?

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by bainsey

Yep, that could kill a shot, too. So, why would elbow swinging be any different?

Who said it should be any different?

[bainsey]

Originally Posted by just another ref

Who said it should be any different?

I was referring to Rob's suggestion of inconsistencies.

[Rob1968]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

I'm guessing the reason the violation by a teammate of the shooter kills the shot is because if the shot goes in there would be no way to penalize the violation.

A foul by the shooter's teammate on the other hand comes with the penalty of one personal foul charged to the offender and possibly free throws for the offended team.

That's the best reasoning I've heard for these rulings. And yet, I still have never seen either called - the going OOB during a teammate's shot, or swinging elbows, by a teammate. Of course, neither happens very often, which contributes to the rarity of such calls.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Rob1968

That's the best reasoning I've heard for these rulings. And yet, I still have never seen either called - the going OOB during a teammate's shot, or swinging elbows, by a teammate. Of course, neither happens very often, which contributes to the rarity of such calls.

With a shot in progress, what possible benefit could a teammate of the shooter be seeking to go OOB on purpose? I'd assert that they are only taking themselves out of any possible useful position when a shot in in the air.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

With a shot in progress, what possible benefit could a teammate of the shooter be seeking to go OOB on purpose?

Going around a defender trying to get inside position for a possible rebound.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by just another ref

Going around a defender trying to get inside position for a possible rebound.

I'm just envisioning that it will take too long to make it to a viable position if they have to go that far behind the backboard to go around a defender and get back in front of the board for a decent rebounding position.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

I'm just envisioning that it will take too long to make it to a viable position if they have to go that far behind the backboard to go around a defender and get back in front of the board for a decent rebounding position.

Just said that was the idea, not that it was a good idea.