Intentional Foul

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Sure it is.

No, it isn't. 4-19-3: "Intentional fouls may or may not be premeditated..."

Neither necessary nor sufficient. Not criterial.

And I know for a fact that you don't call an intentional foul when a player fouls to stop the clock at the end of a game.

[kwatson]

I may not be understanding what mbyron is trying to get across here, but isnt part of the definition in the name INTENTIONAL foul? Also in the book definition "Intentional fouls MAY or may not be premeditated..." For me the inevitable multiple fouls that occur at the end of the game; If they are playing the ball I call common foul. If it is the grab the other player and stand up waiting for the call, which it usually is, intentional. In my opinion the fifteen thousand foul tactic at the end of games should get a delay warning then start whacking the coach. So now I will hide in the corner and await the onslaught

[tref]

Live ball fouls (in the correct manner) during EOG situations is an acceptable practice & should be expected to extend the ballgame.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by kwatson

In my opinion the fifteen thousand foul tactic at the end of games should get a delay warning then start whacking the coach.

Are you suggesting a rule change, or are you saying as written the rules support whacking the coach? Sorry, but I can't support you either way.

[kwatson]

Originally Posted by just another ref

Are you suggesting a rule change, or are you saying as written the rules support whacking the coach? Sorry, but I can't support you either way.

No on the written rule support and God knows we dont need another rule change, just mostly voicing my dislike for the multiple fouls at the end of the game.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by kwatson

I may not be understanding what mbyron is trying to get across here, but isnt part of the definition in the name INTENTIONAL foul?

No, that's why there is confusion and why NCAA changed it to Flagrant 1 (and changed Flagrant to Flagrant 2).

[TimTaylor]

Originally Posted by mbyron

And I know for a fact that you don't call an intentional foul when a player fouls to stop the clock at the end of a game.

Sure we do if it fits the criteria outlined in 4-19-3c.

It's up to the coaches to teach their players the correct way to foul in end game situations if they don't want to run afoul of the rule......

[Adam]

Originally Posted by mbyron

No, it isn't. 4-19-3: "Intentional fouls may or may not be premeditated..."

Neither necessary nor sufficient. Not criterial.

Non sequitur