Needing new pants... Cliff Keen vs Smitty ?

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by tref

I think the key is to dry clean vs washing.

You're not supposed to stone-wash them.

My have been through the normal laundry ever since I started. These pants are near bulletproof.

Dry cleaning them is a waste of money. Even if it extended the life of the pants a bit, it would be a false economy as you could replace the pants for less than dry cleaning them for even 1-2 seasons.

[tref]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

You're not supposed to stone-wash them.

My have been through the normal laundry ever since I started. These pants are near bulletproof.

Dry cleaning them is a waste of money. Even if it extended the life of the pants a bit, it would be a false economy as you could replace the pants for less than dry cleaning them for even 1-2 seasons.

It seems as though I lose more black dye by washing them than cleaning them. And $1.50/item is not a bad deal.

[Rich]

I wash the pants and recognize that they may only last me a season.

[tref]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

I wash the pants and recognize that they may only last me a season.

Alrighty then, BIG money!

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

I wash the pants and recognize that they may only last me a season.

It must be nice.

Peace

[Rich]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

It must be nice.

Peace

I don't get that -- pants cost what, $50 a piece at most? I buy two pairs at the beginning of the season for less than $100 -- that's not even a single juco check.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

I don't get that -- pants cost what, $50 a piece at most? I buy two pairs at the beginning of the season for less than $100 -- that's not even a single juco check.

You also did not include the tailoring costs which depending on where you live might be really jacked up per pant or even the taxes or shipping costs. Not that it is a big deal, but that might take it over a JUCO check which I was paid to work a game which was $110 a few weeks ago.

That being said I would hope a pair of pants last longer than 2 seasons at the very least. I have pants I have had for much longer.

Peace

[NoFussRef]

I went ahead and ordered a pair of Davis pant, from Gerry Davis. I had eye-balled their site a few times while researching Ref-pants. They had a combo deal offering free Cliff Keen Basketball shirt w/ the Davis pants. ($66.50).

I also added another combo which includes pair of socks, new Fox40 classic (pealess, and assuming w/out the rubber bite), and Smitty lanyard (noose). (All three for $14.95.)

Ships via USPS Priority Mail for $17.95. Only other expense will be to get them hemmed, or might have a girlfriend give it a try.

Thanks again for everyone's input. Will let you know how it works out.

Until then... KEEP YOUR STRIPES VERTICAL!

[SD Referee]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

You also did not include the tailoring costs which depending on where you live might be really jacked up per pant or even the taxes or shipping costs. Not that it is a big deal, but that might take it over a JUCO check which I was paid to work a game which was $110 a few weeks ago.

That being said I would hope a pair of pants last longer than 2 seasons at the very least. I have pants I have had for much longer.

Peace

I have some Sansabelt pants that I've had for 7 or 8 years. I ref 4 or 5 nights per week.

The key is to wash them in cold water and air dry them. They hold up very well.

I bought a pair of Smitty this year and LOVE them. Lighter more breathable material and a little wider leg. Don't know how they hold up as I haven't had them a full season yet. Assuming they hold up, I will be buying more Smitty pants.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

You're not supposed to stone-wash them.

My have been through the normal laundry ever since I started. These pants are near bulletproof.

Dry cleaning them is a waste of money. Even if it extended the life of the pants a bit, it would be a false economy as you could replace the pants for less than dry cleaning them for even 1-2 seasons.

I would agree if you wash the pants every single time you wear them. But if you are only doing it once or twice a season based on how many pants you own, then it can be a decent investment. And depending on where you get them done, it is really not that big of an investment.

Peace

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I would agree if you wash the pants every single time you wear them. But if you are only doing it once or twice a season based on how many pants you own, then it can be a decent investment. And depending on where you get them done, it is really not that big of an investment.

Peace

Once or twice a SEASON?? You'd must have more pants than Sansabelt or smell like a basket of dirty clothes.

I sweat. Most people sweat....even those that don't think they do really do.

My pants get washed after every date of games. They'd stink if they didn't get washed. That means 30-40 washing per season. In the wash, that'd cost about $1-2 for all of them (they're washed with other items) vs $60 for dry cleaning the same number of times. These pants can easily handle 40 washings. You could buy a new pair of pants each year for those savings....and not have to drive to the cleaners.

Even if you only washed them every few games, the economies are the same, just stretched out over time. It is cheaper to wash them and buy new ones when they wear out.

These things are permanent press...as long as you take them out of the dryer when it buzzes, they'll look like they were pressed.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Once or twice a SEASON?? You'd must have more pants than Sansabelt or smell like a basket of dirty clothes.

I sweat. Most people sweat....even those that don't think they do really do.

My pants get washed after every date of games. They'd stink if they didn't get washed. That means 30-40 washing per season. In the wash, that'd cost about $1-2 for all of them (they're washed with other items) vs $60 for dry cleaning the same number of times. These pants can easily handle 40 washings. You could buy a new pair of pants each year for those savings....and not have to drive to the cleaners.

Even if you only washed them every few games, the economies are the same, just stretched out over time. It is cheaper to wash them and buy new ones when they wear out.

These things are permanent press...as long as you take them out of the dryer when it buzzes, they'll look like they were pressed.

I wear my pants once then they get washed. Always.

[cmhjordan23]

Sansabelt. I get mine from REFEREE PANT Hemming is free and if you need to bring them in or out it is only an extra $5.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by cmhjordan23

Sansabelt. I get mine from REFEREE PANT Hemming is free and if you need to bring them in or out it is only an extra $5.

I can get about 3 or 4 pair of pants done around the corner of my house at a uniform shop for about $10 and they can tailor them to my specifications live. Did I mention that I can do this all in 30 minutes when I go to that store?

Peace

[SD Referee]

Originally Posted by Rich

I wear my pants once then they get washed. Always.

I'm with you. I ref 4 or 5 nights per week. I have old pants that look like I just got them.

Cold water and air dry is the key.