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NoFussRef Wed Nov 30, 2011 12:33pm

Needing new pants... Cliff Keen vs Smitty ?
 
I have come to the conclusion I cannot purchase pants for officiating basketball at any local retailer. This leaves me "surfing" the internet looking to buy on-line.

I have narrowed it down to CLIFF KEEN or SMITTY, (open to other ideas).

(I will be working games at all levels, primarily Wreck-leagues youth and adult contests. However, I will also be getting some assignments from my state's association, most likely Middle School, and possibly JV High School. I want to look sharp and be prepared for those assignments.)

Keeping in mind that I often work up to 5+ games on any given Saturday, (not bad for 30+ yrs old knees huh?) I need pants that are comfortable and breathable!

ANY SUGGESTIONS OR PREFRENCES IN PANTS???????????????

JRutledge Wed Nov 30, 2011 12:58pm

I would say neither. I think Sansabelt pants are the best quality and long lasting pants. I have Sansabelt pants I have had for 10 years and still look very good. I had pair of Cliff Keen that busted out in the crotch (jokes please :D) after only a few years. Maybe the quality has gotten better, but they seemed a little flimsy to me as compared to the other pants. Smitty pants are another kind I have had and closer to Sansabelt, but I have only had them for a shorter time. I guess if you held my feet to the fire I would go with Smitty brand but when I have the chance I buy only Sansabelt for the long lasting quality. I have also fluctuated in weight and they still hold their shape and fit very well.

Peace

RadioBlue Wed Nov 30, 2011 01:00pm

Got a couple pairs of Smitty's this year and I really like them, except for the really wide elastic band inside the waist. My first pair of pants were POS. I liked the elasti-expand waistband, which the Smitty's don't have, but I hated the material the pants were made out of (a real heavy polyester weave).

All in all, I would buy another pair of Smitty's.

tref Wed Nov 30, 2011 01:04pm

For me, whatever is on sale will do. Officiating pants are expensive!
I believe that I own a pair of CK, Smitty & Officials Choice. They have all held up pretty well over the years. I think the key is to dry clean vs washing.

Beemer Wed Nov 30, 2011 01:11pm

Gerry Davis
 
I bought a pair from Gerry Davis (at Gerry Davis Sports: Davis Basketball Pants). They are way cool. It's a "hard" waistband that is adjustable. Best fit I've ever gotten, and they look sharp. The inseam is longer than usual, meaning you aren't wearing MC Hammer pants on the court anymore. I love them, plus they are a bit lighter, and breathe better.

Welpe Wed Nov 30, 2011 01:16pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by tref (Post 800783)
I think the key is to dry clean vs washing.

Repeated dry cleaning can be harsh on clothing though I'm not sure if it makes a difference with the type of material that most pants are made of. A wash in cold water and hang dry have always served me well.

Rufus Wed Nov 30, 2011 01:49pm

Sansabelt.

Camron Rust Wed Nov 30, 2011 02:13pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by tref (Post 800783)
I think the key is to dry clean vs washing.

You're not supposed to stone-wash them.

My have been through the normal laundry ever since I started. These pants are near bulletproof.

Dry cleaning them is a waste of money. Even if it extended the life of the pants a bit, it would be a false economy as you could replace the pants for less than dry cleaning them for even 1-2 seasons.

tref Wed Nov 30, 2011 02:22pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Camron Rust (Post 800815)
You're not supposed to stone-wash them.

My have been through the normal laundry ever since I started. These pants are near bulletproof.

Dry cleaning them is a waste of money. Even if it extended the life of the pants a bit, it would be a false economy as you could replace the pants for less than dry cleaning them for even 1-2 seasons.

It seems as though I lose more black dye by washing them than cleaning them. And $1.50/item is not a bad deal.

JRutledge Wed Nov 30, 2011 02:50pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Camron Rust (Post 800815)
You're not supposed to stone-wash them.

My have been through the normal laundry ever since I started. These pants are near bulletproof.

Dry cleaning them is a waste of money. Even if it extended the life of the pants a bit, it would be a false economy as you could replace the pants for less than dry cleaning them for even 1-2 seasons.

I would agree if you wash the pants every single time you wear them. But if you are only doing it once or twice a season based on how many pants you own, then it can be a decent investment. And depending on where you get them done, it is really not that big of an investment.

Peace

Rich Wed Nov 30, 2011 02:51pm

I wash the pants and recognize that they may only last me a season.

tref Wed Nov 30, 2011 02:52pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by RichMSN (Post 800831)
I wash the pants and recognize that they may only last me a season.

Alrighty then, BIG money! :D

JRutledge Wed Nov 30, 2011 02:57pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by RichMSN (Post 800831)
I wash the pants and recognize that they may only last me a season.

It must be nice. ;)

Peace

Rich Wed Nov 30, 2011 03:42pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 800833)
It must be nice. ;)

Peace

I don't get that -- pants cost what, $50 a piece at most? I buy two pairs at the beginning of the season for less than $100 -- that's not even a single juco check.

JRutledge Wed Nov 30, 2011 04:09pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by RichMSN (Post 800852)
I don't get that -- pants cost what, $50 a piece at most? I buy two pairs at the beginning of the season for less than $100 -- that's not even a single juco check.

You also did not include the tailoring costs which depending on where you live might be really jacked up per pant or even the taxes or shipping costs. Not that it is a big deal, but that might take it over a JUCO check which I was paid to work a game which was $110 a few weeks ago.

That being said I would hope a pair of pants last longer than 2 seasons at the very least. I have pants I have had for much longer.

Peace


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