3 man for sophomore?

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by stiffler3492

Really? Where, Jeff?

Outside of the Chicago area. There is a whole new world if you leave that area.

It is not every school or even most, but many schools/conferences/associations use 3 Person for lower level games so that they can train official to the system and get their players and coaches that use 3 Person.

Peace

[RookieDude]

Here, on the southeast side of Washington State...we do 3 whistle for ALL Boys H.S. games...to include Freshman games.

Not sure what the Girls side does...I am only a member of our local Boys Association.

[chseagle]

Originally Posted by RookieDude

Here, on the southeast side of Washington State...we do 3 whistle for ALL Boys H.S. games...to include Freshman games.

Not sure what the Girls side does...I am only a member of our local Boys Association.

Girls side is the same, unless there are not enough officials to cover then it's 2-person crews for subvarsity.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by RookieDude

Here, on the southeast side of Washington State...we do 3 whistle for ALL Boys H.S. games...to include Freshman games.

Not sure what the Girls side does...I am only a member of our local Boys Association.

It would be interesting if the schools are able to use two for girls without dealing with Title IX complaints.

[Welpe]

It'd be nice if we could find a way to start using three whistle in JV as a training ground but I don't see schools ponying up the extra fee. Besides, the way the UIL constitution is currently written, I don't think we could negotiate a slightly lower fee per official to add a third.

[chseagle]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

It would be interesting if the schools are able to use two for girls without dealing with Title IX complaints.

Since we've gone 3 person, I've seen a 2-person sub-varsity Girls' game only once or twice.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by chseagle

Since we've gone 3 person, I've seen a 2-person sub-varsity Girls' game only once or twice.

That would make sense. Scheduling issues would probably be allowable, as long as the school is attempting to get three.

But I'm no attorney.

[RookieDude]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

It would be interesting if the schools are able to use two for girls without dealing with Title IX complaints.

True...

not sure if the girls' officials feel they need 3 whistle for ALL the levels.

(I know I sure like 3 whislte, for ALL levels, on the boys side!)

[chseagle]

Originally Posted by RookieDude

True...

not sure if the girls' officials feel they need 3 whistle for ALL the levels.

(I know I sure like 3 whislte, for ALL levels, on the boys side!)

For the Girls' side the extra pair of eyes can be used for fashion police duties J/K

[Adam]

Originally Posted by RookieDude

True...

not sure if the girls' officials feel they need 3 whistle for ALL the levels.

(I know I sure like 3 whislte, for ALL levels, on the boys side!)

Here we have to work both, and I can tell you the need is far more consistent with the boys.

[ga314ref]

...after there's a John McSherry type of incident. Maybe.

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

It would be interesting if the schools are able to use two for girls without dealing with Title IX complaints.

I'm surprised that the existence of distinct associations for boys and girls doesn't prompt Title IX issues.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by mbyron

I'm surprised that the existence of distinct associations for boys and girls doesn't prompt Title IX issues.

Why would it? There is nothing about title IX that requires that a person (independent contractor) who does a job for one group (gender) also do that job for the other gender. Title IX requires the school to offer the same level of opportunities to both genders. It doesn't govern the organizations that provide contract services with the schools/teams.

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Why would it? There is nothing about title IX that requires that a person (independent contractor) who does a job for one group (gender) also do that job for the other gender. Title IX requires the school to offer the same level of opportunities to both genders. It doesn't govern the organizations that provide contract services with the schools/teams.

Schools hiring different quality officials for boys' and girls' events could provide grounds for a liability claim under Title IX.

Many people here seem to find this topic unpleasant, and it's largely irrelevant to officiating, so that's all I'm going to say.

[Adam]

As long as the schools pay the same and provide the same accommodations, I think they're clear. They can't control who accepts their contract offers.