The Official Forum  

Go Back   The Official Forum > Basketball
Register FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old Sun Nov 20, 2011, 12:39pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 782
BRF 12 Penalties for fouls are administered . . .

OK, maybe I'm over-thinking this: Does 8-6-3 regarding the penalties for a false double foul, now allow us to administer the penalties for the single foul, if the double or simultaneous foul was the first or the second?
__________________
To be good at a sport, one must be smart enough to play the game -- and dumb enough to think that it's important . . .
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old Sun Nov 20, 2011, 02:51pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Posts: 14,616
A1 and B1 commit a double foul in the low post. A1 gets the ball for a throw-in where the ball was when the DF occurred. Before the clock starts, B2 fouls A2.
What will you do next?

B2 fouls A2. After A1 has the ball for the throw-in and before the clock starts, A1 and B1 commit a double foul in the low post.
What will you do next?

HINT: You'll do the same thing in both situations.
__________________
"...as cool as the other side of the pillow." - Stuart Scott

"You should never be proud of doing the right thing." - Dean Smith
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old Mon Nov 21, 2011, 02:03am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 782
So, this seems to be a POI situation.
__________________
To be good at a sport, one must be smart enough to play the game -- and dumb enough to think that it's important . . .
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old Mon Nov 21, 2011, 02:46am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 782
Help me see if I'm thinking correctly, on a simutaneous foul, which involves a double foul:
A1 is fouled in the act of shooting. Before the attempt has ended, A2 and B2 commit a double foul. I think we used to clear the lane, have A1 shoot the free throw(s), and then go to the AP arrow.
8-6-3 seems to allow us now to report the fouls, and shoot the free throws, and let the result of the free throws be the POI. IOW, if the last free throw is successful, B will have an endline throw-in. If the last free throw is unsuccessful, the rebound is available, and play continues.
__________________
To be good at a sport, one must be smart enough to play the game -- and dumb enough to think that it's important . . .
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old Mon Nov 21, 2011, 03:08am
Do not give a damn!!
 
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: On the border
Posts: 30,540
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob1968 View Post
Help me see if I'm thinking correctly, on a simutaneous foul, which involves a double foul:
A1 is fouled in the act of shooting. Before the attempt has ended, A2 and B2 commit a double foul. I think we used to clear the lane, have A1 shoot the free throw(s), and then go to the AP arrow.
8-6-3 seems to allow us now to report the fouls, and shoot the free throws, and let the result of the free throws be the POI. IOW, if the last free throw is successful, B will have an endline throw-in. If the last free throw is unsuccessful, the rebound is available, and play continues.
When all of that happens, call me. It would certainly be the first time I ever heard of this happening.

Peace
__________________
Let us get into "Good Trouble."
-----------------------------------------------------------
Charles Michael “Mick” Chambers (1947-2010)
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old Mon Nov 21, 2011, 09:14am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Aug 1999
Posts: 18,169
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob1968 View Post
So, this seems to be a POI situation.
Double fouls always are.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob1968 View Post
8-6-3 seems to allow us now to report the fouls, and shoot the free throws, and let the result of the free throws be the POI. IOW, if the last free throw is successful, B will have an endline throw-in. If the last free throw is unsuccessful, the rebound is available, and play continues.
Close. The FTs themselves (not the result of the FTs) are the POI. Line 'em up and shoot the FTs and continue on as normal -- as if the double foul had not occurred.
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old Mon Nov 21, 2011, 10:15am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 782
'Tis the season . . .

JRut, I called the foul on the shooter's defender, and my partner called the double. I know such scenarios are rare, i"m deep into studying the Part 1 Test, helping other officials put the written word of the test into mental images. It's that time of the season for me. Soon, the cause of my semi-psychosis will be past.
My first HS Mens' game is Tuesday. Although I don't get nervous, I am joyfully anxious. The games are my reward for all the workouts, and mental workouts, studying the rules, and mentoring younger officials. I know I'm gonna smile all game long!

Bob, thanks for your response.
__________________
To be good at a sport, one must be smart enough to play the game -- and dumb enough to think that it's important . . .
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Is illegal batting directly from a punt administered as a PSK goodsir Football 4 Fri Nov 20, 2009 04:49pm
Technical Administered or Not ?? Peach State Ref Basketball 14 Wed Oct 07, 2009 03:41pm
Summary page of fouls and penalties drinkeii Lacrosse 1 Tue Mar 24, 2009 01:34pm
Circumstances, Fouls, & Penalties in High School Hoop assignmentmaker Basketball 19 Wed Oct 19, 2005 01:35am
how are deadball and live ball fouls on touchdown administered timharris Football 3 Mon Nov 17, 2003 01:47pm


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:17am.



Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.3.0 RC1