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Old Mon Oct 17, 2005, 11:18am
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Circumstances, Fouls, & Penalties in High School Hoop

I have created flow-chart of the relationship between Circumstances, Fouls, & Penalties. I'd be happy to have any constructive criticism, and will tolerate anything else without curmudgeonly excess (you know who you are).

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Old Mon Oct 17, 2005, 11:39am
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Man, that's complex and hard to read!! Are the rules really that difficult!?!
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Old Mon Oct 17, 2005, 11:43am
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I'd be happy to have any constructive criticism, and will tolerate anything else without curmudgeonly excess (you know who you are).

Gee, you're not the first one to say that to me....



Fwiw, Einstein, I really do try to ignore as many of your posts as I possible can. They're either (1)way too deep for stoopid ol' me, or (2) they make my widdle head hurt.
I was hoping you would take a look at it. I have a lot of respect for your grasp of the rules.
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Old Mon Oct 17, 2005, 11:51am
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I'd be happy to have any constructive criticism, and will tolerate anything else without curmudgeonly excess (you know who you are).

Gee, you're not the first one to say that to me....



Fwiw, Einstein, I really do try to ignore as many of your posts as I possible can. They're either (1)way too deep for stoopid ol' me, or (2) they make my widdle head hurt.
I was hoping you would take a look at it. I have a lot of respect for your grasp of the rules.
Naw, actually I went back and deleted that post. You musta got to it before I completed doing that.

I'm trying to cut back back on the "curmudgeonly excess" stuff- especially on Mondays.

"Hasta la vagina" or whatever "goodbye" is in Chinese.
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Old Mon Oct 17, 2005, 12:31pm
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The content looks good on a brief read through, but I agree with Rainmaker, it's kind of difficult to follow. The chart in the rulesbook might be easier to follow.
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Old Mon Oct 17, 2005, 12:32pm
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This chart takes something that's relatively simple and complicates it beyond comprehension. If it makes your life easier, knock yourself out. But I can't imagine it being useful. I liken this to the list of most commonly misundertood rules - ok, you took a lot of time to put this together. So what am I supposed to do with this?
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I like it, Jeff. It is a little complex if you're not used to reading a flow-chart (and I'm not really). But the information is good. You didn't mention fighting at all, although I know that's covered under "flagrant". You also say bench T's "may" result in an indirect on the coach. When would it not? You also wimped out on the multiple personal section. "Complex"?
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Old Mon Oct 17, 2005, 01:36pm
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Someone's got too much time on their hands.
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Old Mon Oct 17, 2005, 02:45pm
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This chart takes something that's relatively simple and complicates it beyond comprehension. If it makes your life easier, knock yourself out. But I can't imagine it being useful. I liken this to the list of most commonly misundertood rules - ok, you took a lot of time to put this together. So what am I supposed to do with this?
I agree totally, I have looked at this thing and it is so complicated.
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Old Mon Oct 17, 2005, 04:20pm
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Thanks, Chuck.

I have revised it twice (in the last hour, good God, I should bill myself) based on your critique of the 'indirect' issue. Is there a way to do so without lines crossing? Perhaps not.
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Old Mon Oct 17, 2005, 04:35pm
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assignment maker, I like the flow chart. It stimulates the thought process. A Rookie like myself it clears things up even more. Good J-O-B.
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Old Mon Oct 17, 2005, 05:43pm
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Why is a player technical listed as an indirect T? Some are but many are not.

I don't think the chart will be very useful. Too complicated.

Some sort of matrix would be a better representation.
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Old Mon Oct 17, 2005, 05:47pm
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Good point. That was changed a couple hours ago.

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Why is a player technical listed as an indirect T? Some are but many are not.

I don't think the chart will be very useful. Too complicated.

Some sort of matrix would be a better representation.
Check out the latest revision, online.

I'd be interested to see how you might organize this material as a matrix.

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5 pm Pacific Daylight Time. I like the revision I see now much better. For a certain type of learner, it will be useful, I think. Like the Simplified and Illustrated. Good for some people. I'd be interested to see the same info in several different forms, such as the matrix that Camron suggests, a chart that's more comprehensible than the one in the Fed book, maybe even something that comes from the opposite direction -- consequences at the top, down to fouls at the bottom.

Also, a chart/matrix/flowchart for Correctable Errors.
............................. for Resuming Play Procedure.
............................. for a general, variable pre-game.
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Red face

You forgot the part of the penalty for a flagrant technical on a coach where he has to go out in the parking lot and wash my car.
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