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Old Tue Nov 01, 2011, 11:40am
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Does anyone have the 2011-12 rulebook in PDF format that they would be willing to share? Please send me a private message. I'd like to download to an ipad.

I tried getting access on the Fed site which now goes through arbiter. At that point, I got a message that access is restricted. Not sure why that happened as our local and state asociations are Fed members and I have successfully gotten access to rule books before.
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Old Tue Nov 01, 2011, 12:00pm
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I tried getting access on the Fed site which now goes through arbiter. At that point, I got a message that access is restricted. Not sure why that happened as our local and state asociations are Fed members and I have successfully gotten access to rule books before.
Exact same thing happened to me. I hope it is a site problem and becomes accessible later.
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Old Tue Nov 01, 2011, 12:33pm
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I've heard they're moving to a searchable but non-downloadable format to prevent people from doing exactly what is being requested above. They want to protect their $$$.
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Old Tue Nov 01, 2011, 02:54pm
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I've heard they're moving to a searchable but non-downloadable format to prevent people from doing exactly what is being requested above. They want to protect their $$$.
That makes perfect sense. Make it MORE DIFFICULT to gain access to the most valuable items they provide. If I wasn't already PAYING to be a member, then I wouldn't have access to the site anyway. Eliminating the need for a paper copy has to be more cost efficient. I'd be willing to trade the paper product for the electronic.
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Old Tue Nov 01, 2011, 03:53pm
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Just got an email today saying there is a searchable rule and case book now available for smart phones and the such.
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Old Tue Nov 01, 2011, 05:30pm
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Just got an email today saying there is a searchable rule and case book now available for smart phones and the such.
For a few more $.
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Old Tue Nov 01, 2011, 05:31pm
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That makes perfect sense. Make it MORE DIFFICULT to gain access to the most valuable items they provide. If I wasn't already PAYING to be a member, then I wouldn't have access to the site anyway. Eliminating the need for a paper copy has to be more cost efficient. I'd be willing to trade the paper product for the electronic.
The problem was that paying members were downloading it and giving it to non-paying parties or even posting it on the internet for many to see.
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Old Wed Nov 02, 2011, 08:15am
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The problem was that paying members were downloading it and giving it to non-paying parties or even posting it on the internet for many to see.
The problem is that they charge for an electronic copy in the first place. The rules ought to be freely available with a printed copy costing just enough to cover the printing. The goal should be the widest possible distribution of the rules, not turning the rules into a profit center.

The cost of the app ($5.99) is shocking especially as it is clear they intend to make you pay each year.
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Old Wed Nov 02, 2011, 11:35am
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The problem is that they charge for an electronic copy in the first place. The rules ought to be freely available with a printed copy costing just enough to cover the printing. The goal should be the widest possible distribution of the rules, not turning the rules into a profit center.

The cost of the app ($5.99) is shocking especially as it is clear they intend to make you pay each year.
For the NFHS, the rule book sales (an now the electronic sales) is their primary source of revenue and is used to fund their operations. They can't give it away for cost or cost plus a little or they couldn't operate. They basically have no other way to collect money.

The NCAA does as you suggest....providing free downloadable versions. But, as is obvious, they make money from other sources far larger than they'd ever make in rulebook sales.
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Old Wed Nov 02, 2011, 01:32pm
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The problem is that they charge for an electronic copy in the first place. The rules ought to be freely available with a printed copy costing just enough to cover the printing. The goal should be the widest possible distribution of the rules, not turning the rules into a profit center.

The cost of the app ($5.99) is shocking especially as it is clear they intend to make you pay each year.
Amen!!!

A running joke in many threads on this site and of officials in general is the lack of rules knowledge of fans. If a fan would like to look up a rule on their own (I know, it wouldn't happen very often), why wouldn't the NFHS encourage that? Makes no sense. As Eashshire says, shouldn't the widest possible distribution and understanding of the rules be a primary goal?
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