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Old Mon Oct 24, 2011, 01:06pm
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That is of course, if you consider this move a fumble and not a pass to himself.
It's impossible to pass the ball to oneself.
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Old Mon Oct 24, 2011, 01:20pm
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It's impossible to pass the ball to oneself.
You know what I mean
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Old Mon Oct 24, 2011, 01:22pm
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You know what I mean
To be fair I would not know what you are talking about as many people say this as an explanation as a violation.

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Old Mon Oct 24, 2011, 01:28pm
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Oh fine, don't have my books to get the exact rule reference...but A1 can't recover his own pass, correct?
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Old Mon Oct 24, 2011, 01:33pm
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Oh fine, don't have my books to get the exact rule reference...but A1 can't recover his own pass, correct?
Why can't they? The only issue would be if the "pass" started a dribble and had they dribbled before. But to say a player cannot recover their own pass would be incorrect. If you deem the action to be a fumble, then all players can recover their own fumble no matter if they dribbled or not.

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Old Mon Oct 24, 2011, 02:27pm
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Oh fine, don't have my books to get the exact rule reference...but A1 can't recover his own pass, correct?
The play you described (A1 bounces the "pass" with spin and catches the ball) is legal.
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Old Mon Oct 24, 2011, 02:34pm
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The play you described (A1 bounces the "pass" with spin and catches the ball) is legal.
Right, I got that. We were debating whether or not A1 can recover his own pass.
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Old Mon Oct 24, 2011, 02:39pm
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Right, I got that. We were debating whether or not A1 can recover his own pass.
JRut answered your question correctly...there are times one can retrieve a thrown ball without repercussion and times where if you do so, you might be committing an illegal dribble violation.
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Old Mon Oct 24, 2011, 03:08pm
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Right, I got that. We were debating whether or not A1 can recover his own pass.
Impossible. By definition, a pass is to another player.

So, A1 can recover a fumble. A1 can recover (end) a dribble -- even if the dribble covers a long distance, and A1 takes multiple steps to recover.

A1 can't toss the ball in the air, move the pivot foot and catch the ball.
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