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Old Wed Oct 12, 2011, 11:57am
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Ok. I know as a general rule the hand is part of the ball. Are there any exceptions and can it ever get to excessive, like moves the rest of the body excessive.


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Ok. I know as a general rule the hand is part of the ball. Are there any exceptions and can it ever get to excessive, like moves the rest of the body excessive.


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According to 4-24-2 it is legal in every situation except on the pass.
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According to 4-24-2 it is legal in every situation except on the pass.
As long as the contact is incidental to an attempt to play the ball.
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lets say your shooting a layup or finger roll lay up and they hit the portion of the had that is not incontact with the ball?
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or after the release they are still in contact with the hand?
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According to 4-24-2 it is legal in every situation except on the pass.
What rule book are you quoting?
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Old Wed Oct 12, 2011, 12:26pm
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I think it all depends on the severity of the contact & the previous calls in similar situations. As WE all know, mere contact does not constitute a foul.

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What rule book are you quoting?
Fed... the NCAA ruling is the same but spelled out a bit more clearly.
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or after the release they are still in contact with the hand?
If the initial contact isn't a foul, lingering contact isn't likely to change that. If the contact turns into a hold, however....
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Ok. I know as a general rule the hand is part of the ball. Are there any exceptions and can it ever get to excessive, like moves the rest of the body excessive.


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No the hand is not apart of the ball, the hand is apart of the arm or connected to the arm.

But we are to not consider contact with the hand a foul when the ball is in contact with the ball in most situations.

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No the hand is not apart of the ball, the hand is apart of the arm or connected to the arm.

But we are to not consider contact with the hand a foul when the ball is in contact with the ball in most situations.

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Ok. I know as a general rule the hand is part of the ball. Are there any exceptions and can it ever get to excessive, like moves the rest of the body excessive.


What are your thoughs?
Was there a specific situation or play for which you wanted clarification?
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I just can't not ask.

How many balls do you normally play with?
A lot.

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The hand is part of the ball.


It is legal use of hands to accidentally hit the hand of the opponent when it is in contact with the ball. This includes holding, dribbling, passing, or even during a shot attempt. Striking a ball handler or a shooter on that player's hand that is incidental to an attempt to play the ball is not a foul, no matter how loud it sounds or how much it hurts.
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