Hand is part of the ball

Ace_man

Ok. I know as a general rule the hand is part of the ball. Are there any exceptions and can it ever get to excessive, like moves the rest of the body excessive.

What are your thoughs?

tref

Ace_man wrote
Ok. I know as a general rule the hand is part of the ball. Are there any exceptions and can it ever get to excessive, like moves the rest of the body excessive.

What are your thoughs?

According to 4-24-2 it is legal in every situation except on the pass.

Adam

tref wrote
According to 4-24-2 it is legal in every situation except on the pass.

As long as the contact is incidental to an attempt to play the ball.

Ace_man

lets say your shooting a layup or finger roll lay up and they hit the portion of the had that is not incontact with the ball?

Ace_man

or after the release they are still in contact with the hand?

Ace_man

tref wrote
According to 4-24-2 it is legal in every situation except on the pass.

What rule book are you quoting?

tref

I think it all depends on the severity of the contact & the previous calls in similar situations. As WE all know, mere contact does not constitute a foul.

Ace_man wrote
What rule book are you quoting?

Fed... the NCAA ruling is the same but spelled out a bit more clearly.

Adam

Ace_man wrote
or after the release they are still in contact with the hand?

If the initial contact isn't a foul, lingering contact isn't likely to change that. If the contact turns into a hold, however....

JRutledge

Ace_man wrote
Ok. I know as a general rule the hand is part of the ball. Are there any exceptions and can it ever get to excessive, like moves the rest of the body excessive.

What are your thoughs?

No the hand is not apart of the ball, the hand is apart of the arm or connected to the arm. 😉

But we are to not consider contact with the hand a foul when the ball is in contact with the ball in most situations.

Peace

Adam

JRutledge wrote
No the hand is not apart of the ball, the hand is apart of the arm or connected to the arm. 😉

But we are to not consider contact with the hand a foul when the ball is in contact with the ball in most situations.

Peace

I just can't not ask.

How many balls do you normally play with?

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Ace_man wrote
Ok. I know as a general rule the hand is part of the ball. Are there any exceptions and can it ever get to excessive, like moves the rest of the body excessive.

What are your thoughs?

Was there a specific situation or play for which you wanted clarification?

JRutledge

Snaqwells wrote
I just can't not ask.

How many balls do you normally play with?

A lot. 😉

Peace

BillyMac

Snaqwells wrote
How many balls do you normally play with?

What a bell did to Pavlov's dog, this statement does to Mark Padgett.

BillyMac

Ace_man wrote
The hand is part of the ball.

It is legal use of hands to accidentally hit the hand of the opponent when it is in contact with the ball. This includes holding, dribbling, passing, or even during a shot attempt. Striking a ball handler or a shooter on that player's hand that is incidental to an attempt to play the ball is not a foul, no matter how loud it sounds or how much it hurts.