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Old Tue Sep 13, 2011, 04:43pm
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That was JRut's point...this incident was tamer than her last incident with the line judge.
I'm used to Rut being wrong, so I must have been on auto-pilot.

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Old Tue Sep 13, 2011, 05:34pm
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If she was gone from the tour, another capable athlete would take her place. One that isn't rude, demeaning, etc.

She's a cry baby. And likely always will be.
Sure...an athlete that the public would care about even less. There's only a handful of recognizable names in tennis...and you guessed it, the Williams sisters are two of them. Heck, part of the reason this is such a story is the fact that the public cares about the Williams sisters.
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Sure...an athlete that the public would care about even less. There's only a handful of recognizable names in tennis...and you guessed it, the Venus sisters are two of them. Heck, part of the reason this is such a story is the fact that the public cares about the Venus sisters.

Any relation to the Williams sisters?
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Any relation to the Williams sisters?
Shut up!
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I agree with APG.
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I agree with APG.

I don't recall making this a poll...
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2k fine for someone making more then 12 million, is the same as fining someone who makes 50k a year 8 bucks.

Either you are ok with this behaviour and need to let her rant, or you have to send a message to your athletes that they behaviour is unacceptable. If you are going to make insignificant gestures do not expect anything to change. if you don't expect it to change spend your time worried about something else.
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You tell that to all the sponsors and American viewers she brings to the TV...the people who run the U.S. Open aren't going to shoot themselves in the foot and suspend her from the next tournament.
LOL! Like anybody watches tennis!
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I'm used to Rut being wrong, so I must have been on auto-pilot.

Sorry, Rut.
Don't you have a Canadian football ruling that absolutely no one but you gives a damn about?

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What BS you spurt Rut. She threatened to kill the line judge. Even a fan in the stands heard it and had no problem exposing Serena. She should have been charged with a criminal offense.
LOL!!! Thanks for the laugh.

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If she was gone from the tour, another capable athlete would take her place. One that isn't rude, demeaning, etc.

She's a cry baby. And likely always will be.
Name two other tennis players and spell them by name without looking? I will be waiting. Because the American public at least do not give a damn about Tennis. No one talks about it on discussion sports boards. Actually this was probably the most attention that tournament got because I could not tell you who she played or won the damn thing.

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2k fine for someone making more then 12 million, is the same as fining someone who makes 50k a year 8 bucks.

Either you are ok with this behaviour and need to let her rant, or you have to send a message to your athletes that they behaviour is unacceptable. If you are going to make insignificant gestures do not expect anything to change. if you don't expect it to change spend your time worried about something else.
Exactly. $2k out of $12M is likely thought of as "money well spent" because she got to make a point for so little of a fine.
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Because the American public at least do not give a damn about Tennis. No one talks about it on discussion sports boards.
Then, what's this?

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Actually this was probably the most attention that tournament got because I could not tell you who she played or won the damn thing.
It's a big world out there, Rut. The later rounds of the U.S. Open, Wimbledon, and French Open are still picked up by either NBC or CBS. Someone in America must be watching.

Anyway, Bob wondered aloud what we can learn from this. I've learned that we have it easy, compared to some officials. Most of us wouldn't tolerate this kind of talk from athletes toward us, and we'd handle it immediately. Certainly, though, it's a different world. We get paid significantly less than this official, whose payment is partially dependent upon the television ratings her tournament receives.

Should it matter, though? Shouldn't name-calling like this toward an official always be immediately punishable within the contest? This official did nothing to squash Serena's sililoquy. Should she have taken a firmer stance?
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I would not even compare it to what we do. Tennis has a long history of this behavior as most of the participants are not people that are used to be told what to do in many aspects of life. I just remember what McEnroe, Connors, Agassi and Borg used to do. This was tame on many levels, even tamer compared to how she acted two years ago.

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Wasnt' Borg known for his stoic nature on the court? I don't remember him ever throwing a tantrum. Also, professional sports, expecially an idividual sport like tennis, is all about the players. That's where the money is. Obviously they'll get away with much more.
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Should it matter, though? Shouldn't name-calling like this toward an official always be immediately punishable within the contest?
No. different sports have different standards and operating procedures.

Take any more to the tennis forum.
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Take any more to the tennis forum.
No such animal, boss. Not in this realm. (That's why I prefixed the topic with "OT.")
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I don't recall making this a poll...
Not yet.
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