OT: Calling the official a "hater" and "loser"

[bainsey]

Here is the footage of Serena Williams committing the yelling violation during the point, the chair umpire's application of the rule, and Serena's reactions to the penalty, both after the point and between games, where she results to name-calling of the ump.

While it wasn't a profane tantrum, I dare say we still have a much shorter leash at the scholastic level.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by bainsey

Here is the footage of Serena Williams committing the yelling violation during the point, the chair umpire's application of the rule, and Serena's reactions to the penalty, both after the point and between games, where she results to name-calling of the ump.

While it wasn't a profane tantrum, I dare say we still have a much shorter leash at the scholastic level.

I would not even compare it to what we do. Tennis has a long history of this behavior as most of the participants are not people that are used to be told what to do in many aspects of life. I just remember what McEnroe, Connors, Agassi and Borg used to do. This was tame on many levels, even tamer compared to how she acted two years ago.

Peace

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I would not even compare it to what we do.

I agree. There's "game management" and "unsporting conduct" in all sports but the specific guidelines are completely differerent. They also vary by level (pro v. amateur).

So, I don't think there's much we can learn from this depiction of a different level in a different sport.

[APG]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I would not even compare it to what we do. Tennis has a long history of this behavior as most of the participants are not people that are used to be told what to do in many aspects of life. I just remember what McEnroe, Connors, Agassi and Borg used to do. This was tame on many levels, even tamer compared to how she acted two years ago.

Peace

Tamer but still ridiculous to me...she spent nearly 50 seconds berating the chair umpire there! She's fortunate she plays a sport that's in such dire need of her talents so much...a $2,000 fine is an absolute joke.

[Raymond]

Serena should be embarassed for sounding like a 16 year-old girl in a high school hallway...smh

[stiffler3492]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

Serena should be embarassed for sounding like a 16 year-old girl in a high school hallway...smh

This.

[Bad Zebra]

"You're a hater", "What a loser", "Don't look my way", "Are you the one that screwed me here last time?"

She sounds like a coddled 16 year old brat. The fine was a JOKE. Worse, it seems like it's becoming a pattern with her. Maybe ban her a** from this event for a year to see if she really wants a chance to play there. I never understood why McEnroe's nonsense was tolerated...now Serena. Glad I don't officiate tennis.

[grunewar]

Until there is some real teeth to the penalty/fine, these "pros" will continue to act like little spoiled brats, embarrassing themselves and the game......

Now, about McEnroe.......?

PS - Tennis? We're discussing tennis?

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I would not even compare it to what we do. Tennis has a long history of this behavior as most of the participants are not people that are used to be told what to do in many aspects of life. I just remember what McEnroe, Connors, Agassi and Borg used to do. This was tame on many levels, even tamer compared to how she acted two years ago.

Peace

What BS you spurt Rut. She threatened to kill the line judge. Even a fan in the stands heard it and had no problem exposing Serena. She should have been charged with a criminal offense.

[JugglingReferee]

Giving the opponent is the correct call. Good job by the chair umpire!

What is funnier is Serena calling the CU "unattractive on the inside" and "we're in America". I knew she had no clue about sportsmanship when she came into the tour. But how she hasn't learned after all these years, I dunno - it eludes me. Bad coaching from her parents I guess.

[APG]

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee

What BS you spurt Rut. She threatened to kill the line judge. Even a fan in the stands heard it and had no problem exposing Serena. She should have been charged with a criminal offense.

That was JRut's point...this incident was tamer than her last incident with the line judge.

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer

That was JRut's point...this incident was tamer than her last incident with the line judge.

I'm used to Rut being wrong, so I must have been on auto-pilot.

Sorry, Rut.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee

I'm used to Rut being wrong, so I must have been on auto-pilot.

Sorry, Rut.

Don't you have a Canadian football ruling that absolutely no one but you gives a damn about?

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee

What BS you spurt Rut. She threatened to kill the line judge. Even a fan in the stands heard it and had no problem exposing Serena. She should have been charged with a criminal offense.

LOL!!! Thanks for the laugh.

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee

If she was gone from the tour, another capable athlete would take her place. One that isn't rude, demeaning, etc.

She's a cry baby. And likely always will be.

Name two other tennis players and spell them by name without looking? I will be waiting. Because the American public at least do not give a damn about Tennis. No one talks about it on discussion sports boards. Actually this was probably the most attention that tournament got because I could not tell you who she played or won the damn thing.

Peace

[bainsey]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Because the American public at least do not give a damn about Tennis. No one talks about it on discussion sports boards.

Then, what's this?

Actually this was probably the most attention that tournament got because I could not tell you who she played or won the damn thing.

It's a big world out there, Rut. The later rounds of the U.S. Open, Wimbledon, and French Open are still picked up by either NBC or CBS. Someone in America must be watching.

Anyway, Bob wondered aloud what we can learn from this. I've learned that we have it easy, compared to some officials. Most of us wouldn't tolerate this kind of talk from athletes toward us, and we'd handle it immediately. Certainly, though, it's a different world. We get paid significantly less than this official, whose payment is partially dependent upon the television ratings her tournament receives.

Should it matter, though? Shouldn't name-calling like this toward an official always be immediately punishable within the contest? This official did nothing to squash Serena's sililoquy. Should she have taken a firmer stance?

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by bainsey

Should it matter, though? Shouldn't name-calling like this toward an official always be immediately punishable within the contest?

No. different sports have different standards and operating procedures.

Take any more to the tennis forum.