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Old Wed Sep 14, 2011, 09:28am
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I think this cliche sums up my point here...

We're playing hard no matter the score, we paid to play. I'm sure part of our league fees contributes to the umpire's pay. We deserve the umpire's best efforts.
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Old Wed Sep 14, 2011, 09:33am
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Just got a response from the league commissioner, and he agrees with me that the call was missed, and for the wrong reasons.

I'm not out for blood, just want to make sure that it doesn't happen again.
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Old Wed Sep 14, 2011, 09:40am
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I think this cliche sums up my point here...

We're playing hard no matter the score, we paid to play. I'm sure part of our league fees contributes to the umpire's pay. We deserve the umpire's best efforts.
I am a realist. I love ideal stuff that we all like to hold onto, but you get what you pay for. Unless you start paying guys $100 for these games you will get a $20 to $30 effort for a game that might not take more than an hour. And why I would not compare any of this to what we do. The better comparison would be to those that work Men's leagues and see their effort. I know officials at those leagues take those games as a money grab too.

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Old Wed Sep 14, 2011, 10:17am
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Just got a response from the league commissioner, and he agrees with me that the call was missed, and for the wrong reasons.

I'm not out for blood, just want to make sure that it doesn't happen again.
So do you feel a bit better now, knowing the umpire will receive a talking to about applying the rules as written?

Seriously, for me, this is like the coach who calls your assignor after losing by 20, to b!tch about a 3 second call he didnt get late in the 4Q.

I hope his assignor takes the validity of those type of complaints from the slaughtered team into consideration.

On the outside:
"Yes you are correct, we will talk to the umpires about this & thanks for the email."

On the inside:
Dude, you've got bigger concerns!!

IJS, I think complaints should be saved for sh!t that actually matters in the outcome.

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...had the umpire just owned it and said, "You're right. I should've called that," I'm sure no-one would have been notified.
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Yes. It was his comment to me after the game that bothered me more than the non-call.
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As I said in post #2:

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Perhaps that wasnt the right answer but it was an honest answer & probably an official to official answer.
Depending on how long/how often we've worked, I've found that we unknowingly are known by many people. He probably thought you could relate.

In the mens wreck basketball environment, I speak to HS coaches/officials/ex-players that play different than I do to the typical player, because they should be able to relate to the differences between the real world vs. wreck world.
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Old Wed Sep 14, 2011, 10:31am
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On the outside:
"Yes you are correct, we will talk to the umpires about this & thanks for the email."

On the inside:
Dude, you've got bigger concerns!!
"As far as the dugout play goes, that is totally wrong. The score shouldn't make a difference in the call. Thank you for bringing it to my attention. I will check to see it was the same guy or not. "

That was the response I got. This particular commissioner is a good one, and I wish every single one was like this.

Whether he talks to the guy or not, I felt he should know.
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Old Wed Sep 14, 2011, 10:57am
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Tref, this isn't complaining about a missed 3 sec call. It's ignoring a five step travel and, when asked, saying you didn't call it because you didn't think it mattered. It's not the missed call, it's the attitude behind it.
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Old Wed Sep 14, 2011, 11:03am
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Tref, this isn't complaining about a missed 3 sec call. It's ignoring a five step travel and, when asked, saying you didn't call it because you didn't think it mattered. It's not the missed call, it's the attitude behind it.
Got it! Yeah, I would go with "I'm missed it, sorry coach I'll get better" in this case :-)
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Tref, this isn't complaining about a missed 3 sec call. It's ignoring a five step travel and, when asked, saying you didn't call it because you didn't think it mattered. It's not the missed call, it's the attitude behind it.
It's more like failing to call an out of bounds when the ball is bouncing in the bleachers. An overthrown ball out of play in baseball/softball is a call that makes itself and shouldn't ever be ignored. That's just being lazy.
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