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For the point not hitting the rim though
But the differences (from where the shot was taken) make it an irrelevant comparison.
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But the differences (from where the shot was taken) make it an irrelevant comparison.
Sec. 11, Art. 2. It is a violation when a try for field goal does not leave the shooter’s hand before the expiration of the allotted shot-clock time or a try does not subsequently strike the ring or flange or enter the basket.
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Sec. 11, Art. 2. It is a violation when a try for field goal does not leave the shooter’s hand before the expiration of the allotted shot-clock time or a try does not subsequently strike the ring or flange or enter the basket.
Which is completely irrevelant to the FT violation. We're going around in circles here, have a good day.
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Which is completely irrevelant to the FT violation. We're going around in circles here, have a good day.
That was an example Snaq's. I'm supporting the endline throw in, which I think you are against?
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Old Mon Aug 15, 2011, 02:54pm
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That was an example Snaq's. I'm supporting the endline throw in, which I think you are against?
Yes, I'm against it, but my point here is the FT violation doesn't speak to it either way, because whether you base the spot on the location of the shooter or the rim, it's the same spot.
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Yes, I'm against it, but my point here is the FT violation doesn't speak to it either way, because whether you base the spot on the location of the shooter or the rim, it's the same spot.
Gotcha, I agree on that, it wasn't a good example
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Gotcha, I agree on that, it wasn't a good example
Here's one: A1, having used his dribble and in backcourt in the paint, passes the ball towards midcourt. A2 has turned and doesn't see the ball coming. A1 chases the ball down near the division line and retrieves it. A1 has committed an illegal dribble. Is violation at midcourt where he retrieved the ball or back in the paint where he started his illegal dribble?
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Sec. 11, Art. 2. It is a violation when a try for field goal does not leave the shooter’s hand before the expiration of the allotted shot-clock time or a try does not subsequently strike the ring or flange or enter the basket.
I think you're missing the point of this debate. The debate is "at what point after the shot clock expire does it become a violation". Those who are advocating a sideline throw-in are saying we (officials) should be judging it a miss at some point while the ball is still in flight, which means the ball location would be the spot the ball was last in contact with a player (ie: a 3-point shooter).
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I think you're missing the point of this debate. The debate is "at what point after the shot clock expire does it become a violation". Those who are advocating a sideline throw-in are saying we (officials) should be judging it a miss at some point while the ball is still in flight, which means the ball location would be the spot the ball was last in contact with a player (ie: a 3-point shooter).
According to the rule, when it misses the ring. I find it hard to judge a shot unsuccessful in midflight. Oh and thanks for the clarification, it was much needed
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