Is there ever a time?

[stir22]

Myself and some other newer refs in our pool get together in the off-season to shoot the breeze, go over rules and think up unusual stuff that we've never seen, but probably will sometime. Last night this question was posed;

Is there ever a time when a technical foul is assessed to the bench where the head coach wouldn't get the seat-belt? We went through the books and couldn't find anything, but I thought I would pose the question here.

This question arose out of a screw-up a partner and I had in a sophomore game...there was an error in the book (unlisted player), and the coach wanted him in the game, so my partner (the R) assessed the T, and the kid came in. However, neither of us thought to give the coach the seat-belt.

Thanks!!!

[tref]

Originally Posted by stir22

Is there ever a time when a technical foul is assessed to the bench where the head coach wouldn't get the seat-belt?

This question arose out of a screw-up a partner and I had in a sophomore game...there was an error in the book (unlisted player), and the coach wanted him in the game, so my partner (the R) assessed the T, and the kid came in. However, neither of us thought to give the coach the seat-belt.

All bench technicals are indirect to the head coach (unless coach is the offender) as the bench is their responsibility.

Team technicals (adding a player, wrong #, etc) just goes toward the team foul count.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by stir22

Myself and some other newer refs in our pool get together in the off-season to shoot the breeze, go over rules and think up unusual stuff that we've never seen, but probably will sometime. Last night this question was posed;

Is there ever a time when a technical foul is assessed to the bench where the head coach wouldn't get the seat-belt? We went through the books and couldn't find anything, but I thought I would pose the question here.

This question arose out of a screw-up a partner and I had in a sophomore game...there was an error in the book (unlisted player), and the coach wanted him in the game, so my partner (the R) assessed the T, and the kid came in. However, neither of us thought to give the coach the seat-belt.

Thanks!!!

I don't think the NFHS has the category "bench technical."

You can see the types of Technical fouls where the coach is required (or not) to sit in the "Summary" chart at the end of Rule 10.

[tref]

10-4 good buddy, no?

[stir22]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

I don't think the NFHS has the category "bench technical."

You can see the types of Technical fouls where the coach is required (or not) to sit in the "Summary" chart at the end of Rule 10.

aahhh...got it.

/many thanks!!!

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by stir22

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This question arose out of a screw-up a partner and I had in a sophomore game...there was an error in the book (unlisted player), and the coach wanted him in the game, so my partner (the R) assessed the T, and the kid came in. However, neither of us thought to give the coach the seat-belt.

Thanks!!!

So where was the screw up?

[BLydic]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

So where was the screw up?

Good news is you got it right!

[bainsey]

Originally Posted by tref

10-4 good buddy, no?

Exactly, NFHS 10-4 is entitled "Bench Technical."

That said, stir's sitch falls under 10-1-1, which is a team technical. No seat belts here.

[stir22]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

So where was the screw up?

Well, i guess we ham-handedly got lucky. But, it is definitely a learning experience, as we both thought the coach should get the belt. As an aside, it was the varsity guys who came in at half-time and told us the coach should have been sitting.

[bainsey]

Originally Posted by stir22

As an aside, it was the varsity guys who came in at half-time and told us the coach should have been sitting.

That will happen (though it shouldn't). I had a coach once ask me why his opponent wasn't sitting after two DOG violations, because he was made to do sit for the same reason in a previous game.