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Old Sat Feb 01, 2003, 06:34pm
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Our supervisor just informed us that after working with some officials from "out of town" he picked up "the new mechanic" of visually counting 3-seconds in the lane. I knew something was wrong with this, but he is convinced this is better. Please help me on this one, I absolutely know it is NOT the proper mechanic and don`t need to be quoted from the rule book. What would be helpful is WHY it is inappropriate and what sacrifices are there to other officiating concerns?

So far I have:

1) A1 and A2 in lane simultaneously, each entering at a different time. 2 counts?
2) A1 in lane, A3 closely guarded by B1 right next to you. Again 2 counts looks bad?
3) Coach sees you reach count of 3, but A1 is "going to the hole", coach questions why "you let him go".
4) Looks like you`re focused only on count, while more important concerns (post play, off-ball fouls,etc.) take a back seat.

Please load me up with more, I need to take this back to "The Boss".
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Old Sat Feb 01, 2003, 06:41pm
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Welcome to the board.
Sorry, can't help you.
My visible counts often start after "3".


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Old Sat Feb 01, 2003, 07:26pm
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What would be helpful is WHY it is inappropriate and what sacrifices are there to other officiating concerns?

So far I have:

1) A1 and A2 in lane simultaneously, each entering at a different time. 2 counts?
2) A1 in lane, A3 closely guarded by B1 right next to you. Again 2 counts looks bad?
3) Coach sees you reach count of 3, but A1 is "going to the hole", coach questions why "you let him go".
4) Looks like you`re focused only on count, while more important concerns (post play, off-ball fouls,etc.) take a back seat.

Please load me up with more, I need to take this back to "The Boss".
"The Boss"?

You have more than enough reasons in the four that you quoted above.What do you do if you have three offensive players in the lane?-LOL! Of course,this is all on top of the extremely explicit language in the NCAA rulebook that says that the count is always silent(both Mens & Womens).I realize that you know that-it's too bad that "The Boss" doesn't. Good luck with "The Boss". You'll probably need it!
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Old Sun Feb 02, 2003, 01:06am
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Tell your supervisor that nobody on this board counts at all on 3 seconds, let alone visually. There are all sorts of ways to spot this particular violation, but maybe it's a regional thing, because I have never seen a lot of them. I
have never seen a player actually "camp out" in the lane. I have never seen a player "pitch a tent" in the lane. I have never seen a player actually stay in the lane "all day long." I have never seen a player in the lane with spider webs anywhere on his person. The best way that I find to know when the violation occurs, is when the coach/teammates of the player yell at him: "Get out of the lane, Bubba, you big _________!" You can go ahead and whistle it, his train is overdue.
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Old Sun Feb 02, 2003, 01:19am
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My count is verbal.
32, get out of the lane.
Get out of the lane!
32 yea you. get out of the lane!!
tweet.

I want to know what rule book coaches and fans are reading that has in its POE. 3 seconds.
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Old Sun Feb 02, 2003, 01:53am
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What do you do if you have three offensive players in the lane? -LOL!
Imagine the possibilities!
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Old Sun Feb 02, 2003, 08:27am
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My count is verbal.
I like it.
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Old Mon Feb 03, 2003, 11:43pm
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What would be helpful is WHY it is inappropriate and what sacrifices are there to other officiating concerns?

So far I have:

1) A1 and A2 in lane simultaneously, each entering at a different time. 2 counts?
2) A1 in lane, A3 closely guarded by B1 right next to you. Again 2 counts looks bad?
3) Coach sees you reach count of 3, but A1 is "going to the hole", coach questions why "you let him go".
4) Looks like you`re focused only on count, while more important concerns (post play, off-ball fouls,etc.) take a back seat.

Please load me up with more, I need to take this back to "The Boss".
"The Boss"?

You have more than enough reasons in the four that you quoted above.What do you do if you have three offensive players in the lane?-LOL! Of course,this is all on top of the extremely explicit language in the NCAA rulebook that says that the count is always silent(both Mens & Womens).I realize that you know that-it's too bad that "The Boss" doesn't. Good luck with "The Boss". You'll probably need it!
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