Screaming Player

[twocentsworth]

if you've ever had a younger brother or sister, you know that they "do things" just to annoy you.....when you ignore them - they stop.

same principle here (or should i say "hear"....hehehe).

just ignore it. as an official, you should be the calmest person on the floor - don't let this bother you. it will stop. you can add this to your list of "funny" bball stories you'll tell people as you get more officiating experience.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by twocentsworth

if you've ever had a younger brother or sister, you know that they "do things" just to annoy you.....when you ignore them - they stop.

same principle here (or should i say "hear"....hehehe).

just ignore it. as an official, you should be the calmest person on the floor - don't let this bother you. it will stop. you can add this to your list of "funny" bball stories you'll tell people as you get more officiating experience.

I only disagree that it'll stop. It obviously didn't.

At higher levels, it's up to the opponents to stop it, and it would be pretty simple. Lower levels (like 6th grade AAU), I wouldn't hold it against an official who told her to stop and then gave her a T if she refused.

[twocentsworth]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

I only disagree that it'll stop. It obviously didn't.

At higher levels, it's up to the opponents to stop it, and it would be pretty simple. Lower levels (like 6th grade AAU), I wouldn't hold it against an official who told her to stop and then gave her a T if she refused.

what would the basis for the T be?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by twocentsworth

what would the basis for the T be?

In a 6th grade AAU game? You could invoke the "not limited to" provision, or the God rule (2-3). It doesn't really matter, IMO. Again, I'm talking about a situation where the player is screaming so loud it hurts the officials' ears.

[LearningREF]

Thanks guys. I'd like to just ignore it and may have no choice but to do that.

FYI - It doesn't stop. You can tell it's coached. The few minutes she was out of the game , her replacement came in and did the same thing but she didn't have the pipes to make my ears bleed. The coach is also a loudmouth who doesn't stay in the coach's box, etc. What concerns me the most is that it really riles up the crowd - mostly the parents from the other team, which then riles up the screamer's team parents. They start yelling onto the court "Make her stop! Tell the coach to play the game fair!" and more.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by LearningREF

Thanks guys. I'd like to just ignore it and may have no choice but to do that.

FYI - It doesn't stop. You can tell it's coached. The few minutes she was out of the game , her replacement came in and did the same thing but she didn't have the pipes to make my ears bleed. The coach is also a loudmouth who doesn't stay in the coach's box, etc. What concerns me the most is that it really riles up the crowd - mostly the parents from the other team, which then riles up the screamer's team parents. They start yelling onto the court "Make her stop! Tell the coach to play the game fair!" and more.

T him for this. It'll stop. No way do you put up with this, especially in a 6th grade AAU game.

[Bad Zebra]

Originally Posted by LearningREF

FYI - It doesn't stop. You can tell it's coached. The few minutes she was out of the game , her replacement came in and did the same thing but she didn't have the pipes to make my ears bleed. The coach is also a loudmouth who doesn't stay in the coach's box, etc. What concerns me the most is that it really riles up the crowd - mostly the parents from the other team, which then riles up the screamer's team parents. They start yelling onto the court "Make her stop! Tell the coach to play the game fair!" and more.

Typical AAU nonsense. Warn the coach ONCE that you consider it unsporting behavior. Give him a chance to fix it and then T should be served. Allowing that $hlt to continue only makes it more difficult for the next crew and emboldens the coach. If the tournament director has a problem with it, you'll know soon enough...and if (s)he does have a problem with your call, that's a good reason to not work that tournament.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by Bad Zebra

Typical AAU nonsense. Warn the coach ONCE that you consider it unsporting behavior. Give him a chance to fix it and then T should be served. Allowing that $hlt to continue only makes it more difficult for the next crew and emboldens the coach. If the tournament director has a problem with it, you'll know soon enough...and if (s)he does have a problem with your call, that's a good reason to not work that tournament.

I concur. This behavior is not proper for basketball.

4-19-14 . . .

An unsporting foul is a noncontact technical foul which consists
of unfair, unethical, dishonorable conduct or any behavior not in accordance with
the spirit of fair play.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by LearningREF

Thanks guys. I'd like to just ignore it and may have no choice but to do that.

...The coach is also a loudmouth who doesn't stay in the coach's box, etc. ...

This is something you do not ignore and for which there is a rule.

[bainsey]

Originally Posted by twocentsworth

what would the basis for the T be?

It's taunting. Whack.

[MD Longhorn]

First time she does it, blow the whistle, run over to her with genuine concern and ask if she's ok. When she says yes, blow it live and when she does it again, blow it dead and run over to her with genuine concern. Etcetera. She (or more likely coach) will get the point if he wants to play.

And PS - a coach who is intentionally straddling that line of sportsmanship should definitely be rung for leaving his coaching box. First time. Every time.

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by twocentsworth

what would the basis for the T be?

I would invoke the "TN" rule.

[stir22]

Originally Posted by Mark Padgett

I would invoke the "TN" rule.

Sorry for my ignorance, but I'm a newer guy who just finished his third year.

What does "TN" stand for?

/thank you

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by stir22

Sorry for my ignorance, but I'm a newer guy who just finished his third year.

What does "TN" stand for?

/thank you

"Tough Noogies".

[ontheway]

yeah ima newbie too i would use discernment when it becomes a spectacle and effects the game you should do something