Designated spot throw-in question...

[NoFussRef]

A1 to inbound from designated spot, say end-line. A1 stays in spot, but puts a hard spin on the ball and bounce-passes the ball to A2 by bouncing it off the floor out of bounds, the spin causing the ball to hook inbounds to A2.

LEGAL?

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by NoFussRef

A1 to inbound from designated spot, say end-line. A1 stays in spot, but puts a hard spin on the ball and bounce-passes the ball to A2 by bouncing it off the floor out of bounds, the spin causing the ball to hook inbounds to A2.

LEGAL?

No. Under FED rules, the ball must be passed directly inbounds on a spot throw in. BTW - where in Oregon are you, if you don't mind sharing?

[NoFussRef]

Imprimatur:

Eugene, Oregon area.

Same wreck 2 hours south of you. I will be joining OSAA late summer/early fall this year. Have been doing wreckball for over 17 seasons, youth and adult.

[NoFussRef]

[QUOTE=Mark Padgett;763462]No. Under FED rules, the ball must be passed directly inbounds on a spot throw in.

Would there be any difference if A1 was allowed to run the end-line?

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by NoFussRef

Would there be any difference if A1 was allowed to run the end-line?

I believe that he would be allowed to throw a bounce "pass" to a teammate out of bounds, but he would not be allowed to throw such a "pass" to a teammate inbounds.

Also, for either a designated spot throwin, or a run the endline throwin, a player inbounding the ball may bounce the ball, i.e "dribble", on the out-of-bounds area prior to making a throwin.

[BillyMac]

A player inbounding the ball may step on, but not over the line. During a designated spot throwin, the player inbounding the ball must keep one foot on or over the three-foot wide designated spot. An inbounding player is allowed to jump or move one or both feet. A player inbounding the ball may move backward as far as the five-second time limit or space allows. If player moves outside the three-foot wide designated spot it is a throwin violation, not traveling. In gymnasiums with limited space outside the sidelines and endlines, a defensive player may be asked to step back no more than three feet. A player inbounding the ball may "dribble" the ball on the out-of-bounds area prior to making a throwin. After a goal, or awarded goal, the team not credited with the score shall make the throw-in from any point outside the end line. A team retains this “run the endline” privilege if a timeout is called during the dead ball period after the goal. Any player of the team may make a direct throw-in, or may pass the ball along the end line to a teammate outside the boundary line.

The defender may not break the imaginary plane during a throwin until the ball has been released on a throw-in pass. If the defender breaks the imaginary plane during a throwin before the ball has been released on a throw-in pass, the defender’s team will receive a team warning, or if the team has already been warned for one of the four delay situations, this action would result in a team technical foul. If the defender contacts the ball after breaking the imaginary plane, it is a player technical foul and a team warning will be recorded. If the defender fouls the inbounding player, even without breaking the imaginary plane, it is an intentional personal foul, and a team warning will be recorded. (Note: I'm not sure about the part in red. We'll have to wait until the new rule interpretations come out.)

The inbounding player does not have a plane restriction, but has five seconds to release the ball and it must come directly onto the court. The ball can always be passed into the backcourt during a throwin. This situation is not a backcourt violation.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by NoFussRef

Would there be any difference if A1 was allowed to run the end-line?

No difference. On a non-designated spot throw-in, any pass that bounces OOB must be caught by a teammate who is completely OOB. Any pass that is caught by an IB player must not have bounced OOB first.