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Old Mon Jun 06, 2011, 05:57pm
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Backcourt Violation NBA

Does the NBA have a different definition of front court status than FED?

Or was the halfcourt shot by the Heat a backcourt violation since his front court was touching the division line and his other foot was in the backcourt when he received a pass from someone in the front court?
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Old Mon Jun 06, 2011, 06:00pm
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They just missed the play. It should have been a backcourt violation. The midcourt line is considered part of the backcourt just like NF and NCAA.
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Old Mon Jun 06, 2011, 06:01pm
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I heard some babbeling about this form VG but didn't see the play. I'm glad you posted this because I am curious what really happened.
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Old Mon Jun 06, 2011, 06:06pm
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I heard some babbeling about this form VG but didn't see the play. I'm glad you posted this because I am curious what really happened.
With about 3 or so seconds left, a Miami Heat player dribbled the ball across midcourt (ball and player achieved frontcourt status). Said player then stops and passes the ball to a teammate who catches the ball with his foot on the midcourt line. What was funny was at the beginning of the second quarter, they were praising the no call because his foot was on the line. Never heard announcers claim the line as part of the frontcourt...otherwise, they wouldn't chime for a backcourt violation whenever a dribbler in the frontcourt stepped on the line. Around the beginning of the 4th quarter, they finally got the correct interpretation.

Dan Crawford was the slot on the play and in the best position to see it, but passed on the play. It should have been a backcourt violation.
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Old Mon Jun 06, 2011, 07:59pm
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Thanks for the explanation.
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Old Sat Jun 11, 2011, 10:37pm
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Also, if I recall NBA rules correctly, a team cannot inbound the ball into the backcourt on a throw-in except in the final two minutes of regulation time (and possibly any overtime period).
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Old Sat Jun 11, 2011, 10:40pm
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Also, if I recall NBA rules correctly, a team cannot inbound the ball into the backcourt on a throw-in except in the final two minutes of regulation time (and possibly any overtime period).
Correct...final two minutes of the 4th or any overtime periods.
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Old Tue Jun 21, 2011, 10:54pm
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if this was in the first quarter of the game i can see an NBA ref passing on it. I guarantee had this been 4th Quarter he wouldnt have passed on it
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Old Tue Jun 21, 2011, 10:57pm
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if this was in the first quarter of the game i can see an NBA ref passing on it. I guarantee had this been 4th Quarter he wouldnt have passed on it
No way they'd "pass" on it, first quarter plays are just as dissected as fourth quarter plays.

Miss it? Sure, we all miss stuff. Pass on it? Doubt it.
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Old Tue Jun 21, 2011, 10:58pm
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if this was in the first quarter of the game i can see an NBA ref passing on it. I guarantee had this been 4th Quarter he wouldnt have passed on it
Your line of thinking is not in line with any officiating philosophy at any level of play...the NBA wants its officials to get the play right period. I think it's safe to say that Dan Crawford was not happy with this no call incorrect in the first...or if it would have happened at any portion of the game.
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Old Thu Jun 23, 2011, 02:12am
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Your line of thinking is not in line with any officiating philosophy at any level of play...the NBA wants its officials to get the play right period. I think it's safe to say that Dan Crawford was not happy with this no call incorrect in the first...or if it would have happened at any portion of the game.
so when a NBA REF of 25 years tells me when theres 20 sec left in a game with a 20 point margin to pass on a 3 second call that his line of thinking is not in line with any officiating philosophy at any level of play?

you cannot be serious
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Old Thu Jun 23, 2011, 02:23am
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so when a NBA REF of 25 years tells me when theres 20 sec left in a game with a 20 point margin to pass on a 3 second call that his line of thinking is not in line with any officiating philosophy at any level of play?

you cannot be serious
Now you're just changing up the play and the situation...and you're not even following you're own line of thinking. Your statement implied that an NBA official would pass on a clear and obvious violation in the first...but not later on in the game yet your situation is advocating ignoring an (unrealistic) violation in the fourth quarter of a blowout.
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Old Thu Jun 23, 2011, 02:58am
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ok my bad! lol i need to get on here earlier in the day so my heads on straight. look im relatively new so im learning just get a little jumpy when you insult my intelligence dang you were a newbie at some point
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Old Thu Jun 23, 2011, 03:09am
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ok my bad! lol i need to get on here earlier in the day so my heads on straight. look im relatively new so im learning just get a little jumpy when you insult my intelligence dang you were a newbie at some point
If you thought I was insulting you, then I apologize as it was not my intent.

For the record, I do think that most officials at all levels of play would use discretion in calling a 3 second violation in a 20 point blowout with 20 seconds left.
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Old Thu Jun 23, 2011, 03:11am
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thank you and im sorry for jumping the gun
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