NFHS - Two Hand Reporting

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

Any issues that could come up from two-hand reporting are counterbalanced by a similar issue with one-hand reporting...neither one communicates better or worse than the other. The problem with communicating to the table usually resides with us - not whether we use one or two hands to report numbers, but whether we take the time to make eye contact, speak loudly and clearly as we state and show the number, etc., etc...

...and whether the scorer is paying attention.

[NCHSAA]

I wish the NFHS would experiment with two hand reporting just for the heck of it. IMO two hands look stronger.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by NCHSAA

...IMO two hands look stronger.

When done properly. You also have officials looking like Frankenstein walking towards the table with 2 arms stiffly outstretched in front of them.

[APG]

Originally Posted by NCHSAA

I wish the NFHS would experiment with two hand reporting just for the heck of it. IMO two hands look stronger.

This I agree with...two hands looks stronger when reporting, but there are too many officials who would screw it up...especially since there's such a wide degree of officials with differing levels of compentency. I think 95 percent of the people that post here could handle it with no problem, but NF has to make mechanics for everybody.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

You also have officials looking like Frankenstein walking towards the table with 2 arms stiffly outstretched in front of them.

Over the back?

[Scrapper1]

"Looks stronger"? Why? Because we see it on TV? I just disagree. It's different, but it doesn't look any better at all. One-handed reporting can be just as crisp and strong as two-handed. It's just different.

[tref]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

You also have officials looking like Frankenstein walking towards the table with 2 arms stiffly outstretched in front of them.

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Comedy!

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

"Looks stronger"? Why? Because we see it on TV? I just disagree. It's different, but it doesn't look any better at all. One-handed reporting can be just as crisp and strong as two-handed. It's just different.

Not only does it look stronger IMO, it feels stronger when I do it.
One single snap of the offenders # with 2 hands accompanied by a strong voice & body language communicates the "as-a-matter-of-fact" factor.

Snapping twice with the same hand in the same manner as above could communicate that one is slow or not very sure.
Plus the visual delivery never quite syncs up with verbal delivery! Reminds me of the old karate flicks (if you know what I mean)

Honestly, I believe the table crew could mess up 1 hand reporting easier than 2 handed.
It would be very easy to put a foul on #2 when reporting with 1 hand, "White twenty-four" but 2 handed it would be very clear, well, except if the official can read it themselves that would be "Fourty-two" to the table

I do agree with your take on us seeing it on TV! Because when I see the ones that walk & talk snap with 2 it looks waaaaay better than those than run, stop & snap with 1, twice.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by tref

... Because when I see the ones that walk & talk snap with 2 ...

Too bad the percentage of 2-hand reporting officials who do it this way is very low based on my personal observations.

I'm a one-handed reporting official and my top 2 compliments when camping are my voice and my presense. Never once has anyone suggest to me that I'd looked stronger going with 2 hands.

[SAK]

When doing one handed reporting we are supposed to vocalize the number that is on our hand "Five, two" rather than "Fifty-two."

How many actually do that?

[APG]

Originally Posted by SAK

When doing one handed reporting we are supposed to vocalize the number that is on our hand "Five, two" rather than "Fifty-two."

How many actually do that?

Always been taught opposite...to actually say the number. Too easy for a scorer to hear only one of the numbers. A lot harder to mistake fifty-two rather than five-two.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by SAK

When doing one handed reporting we are supposed to vocalize the number that is on our hand "Five, two" rather than "Fifty-two."

...

Do you have manual reference for this?

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

"Looks stronger"? Why? Because we see it on TV? I just disagree. It's different, but it doesn't look any better at all. One-handed reporting can be just as crisp and strong as two-handed. It's just different.

+1

Peace

[bball_lurker]

Watching some summer V bball on Tuesday. Host gym coaches were reffing, which was pretty funny. He signaled all foul numbers with both hands.

Shooting foul on #11, he signals the # with both pointer fingers, of course the kids all think it's one and one. So they all play the miss. Not a huge deal, but one that should be easily avoided right?

[tref]

Originally Posted by bball_lurker

Watching some summer V bball on Tuesday. Host gym coaches were reffing, which was pretty funny. He signaled all foul numbers with both hands.

Shooting foul on #11, he signals the # with both pointer fingers, of course the kids all think it's one and one. So they all play the miss. Not a huge deal, but one that should be easily avoided right?

Value of voice!

[Zoochy]

Originally Posted by SAK

When doing one handed reporting we are supposed to vocalize the number that is on our hand "Five, two" rather than "Fifty-two."

How many actually do that?

Not me. I do the opposite. Just as APG described.
I have had this discussion with fellow officials. And I recall, all that is mentioned in the book is to 'Report the Number'. It does not say report each seperate digit.