NFHS - Two Hand Reporting

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer

Except 7 is not even a legal number under NF, so that's an afterthought.

My point was that even in the NBA and their professional scorekeepers, two-handed reporting has it's difficulties. That these issues wouldn't exist in Fed wasn't my point. (Other issues would exist as noted.)

[Stat-Man]

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee

My point was that even in the NBA and their professional scorekeepers, two-handed reporting has it's difficulties. That these issues wouldn't exist in Fed wasn't my point. (Other issues would exist as noted.)

I used to work a basketball tournament with modified pro rules and one year, a team had both #55 and #99 on their roster. For each one, the official would flash both hands and fingers so fast I had no idea who they were calling the foul on. If it was noisy, that just added to the challenge of figuring out which player got the foul.

At the risk of a hijack, are officials supposed to have their hands in front of the body when indicating the number or off to the side? When some officials indicate numbers with their hands in front of the body, the fingers sometimes blend in with the stripes.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Stat-Man

Are officials supposed to have their hands in front of the body when indicating the number or off to the side?

IAABO mechanics went to the side two years ago. I can't comment on NFHS mechanics, but I'm sure that someone who knows will be along to comment soon.

[bbcof83]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

IAABO mechanics went to the side two years ago. I can't comment on NFHS mechanics, but I'm sure that someone who knows will be along to comment soon.

Off to the side, head level I believe.

[BBrules]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

IAABO mechanics went to the side two years ago. I can't comment on NFHS mechanics, but I'm sure that someone who knows will be along to comment soon.

I don't have my Official's Manual with me, but we were taught to report in front about chest level.

[Zoochy]

make sure you pulse the hand foward and back, then show the back of the hand for the 2nd digit. NOT!
And don't forget to keep moving while reporting.

[rockyroad]

Any issues that could come up from two-hand reporting are counterbalanced by a similar issue with one-hand reporting...neither one communicates better or worse than the other. The problem with communicating to the table usually resides with us - not whether we use one or two hands to report numbers, but whether we take the time to make eye contact, speak loudly and clearly as we state and show the number, etc., etc...

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

Any issues that could come up from two-hand reporting are counterbalanced by a similar issue with one-hand reporting...neither one communicates better or worse than the other. The problem with communicating to the table usually resides with us - not whether we use one or two hands to report numbers, but whether we take the time to make eye contact, speak loudly and clearly as we state and show the number, etc., etc...

...and whether the scorer is paying attention.

[ontheway]

we as a officials need to COMMUNICATE clearly obviously you have to use judgement say in a jv game. young scorekeeper, you may want to ask him or her what is best for them upper level games IMO two-hand works best be efficient be calm but keep the game moving

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by BBrules

I don't have my Official's Manual with me, but we were taught to report in front about chest level.

I worked with a gal in spring league about a month ago who would have had to hold her hands waaaaay out in front to do this.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by BBrules

I don't have my Official's Manual with me, but we were taught to report in front about chest level.

Not everything is done out of that manual. This is one of those cases for most people.

Peace

[bball_lurker]

Watching some summer V bball on Tuesday. Host gym coaches were reffing, which was pretty funny. He signaled all foul numbers with both hands.

Shooting foul on #11, he signals the # with both pointer fingers, of course the kids all think it's one and one. So they all play the miss. Not a huge deal, but one that should be easily avoided right?

[tref]

Originally Posted by bball_lurker

Watching some summer V bball on Tuesday. Host gym coaches were reffing, which was pretty funny. He signaled all foul numbers with both hands.

Shooting foul on #11, he signals the # with both pointer fingers, of course the kids all think it's one and one. So they all play the miss. Not a huge deal, but one that should be easily avoided right?

Value of voice!