Rule changes

[Raymond]

I would be interested to hear randall's thoughts on the rule change and how it will affect various throw-in case plays.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

I would be interested to hear randall's thoughts on the rule change and how it will affect various throw-in case plays.

You'll need to get him a copy of the original Greek text first.

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

You'll need to get him a copy of the original Greek text first.

Latin!! Latin!! The original text has to be in Latin, then one can translate it into Italian, and then finally English for it to make any sense.

MTD, Sr.

[26 Year Gap]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

I would be interested to hear randall's thoughts on the rule change and how it will affect various throw-in case plays.

Why don't you change your username to "Joe Isuzu"?

[GoodwillRef]

This is a great change...we need to take out as many exceptions as possible so we all get the calls right.

[Scrapper1]

Originally Posted by GoodwillRef

This is a great change...we need to take out as many exceptions as possible so we all get the calls right.

How does this eliminate exceptions? Now you need an exception to the backcourt rule, an exception to the 3-seconds rule. . .

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

How does this eliminate exceptions? Now you need an exception to the backcourt rule, an exception to the 3-seconds rule. . .

If the 3-second rule was written to include possession inbounds and in the FC, then no exception would be needed.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee

If the 3-second rule was written to include possession inbounds and in the FC, then no exception would be needed.

OOB is not part of the front or back court. OOB is adjacent to the corresponding part of the court.

Rule 4-3 Art. 2. A team’s front court shall consist of that part of the playing court between its end line and the nearer edge of the division line, including its basket and the inbounds part of its backboard.

At least it's that way in the NCAA rule book. So there is no need for an exception. The NFHS just needs to define the front court in the rule book. But as it stands I see nothing in the NFHS rule or case book that tells us to have a 3-second count during a front court throw-in.

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

OOB is not part of the front or back court. OOB is adjacent to the corresponding part of the court.

Rule 4-3 Art. 2. A team’s front court shall consist of that part of the playing court between its end line and the nearer edge of the division line, including its basket and the inbounds part of its backboard.

At least it's that way in the NCAA rule book. So there is no need for an exception. The NFHS just needs to define the front court in the rule book. But as it stands I see nothing in the NFHS rule or case book that tells us to have a 3-second count during a front court throw-in.

See above.

[bainsey]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

OOB is not part of the front or back court. OOB is adjacent to the corresponding part of the court....


At least it's that way in the NCAA rule book. .... The NFHS just needs to define the front court in the rule book.

Done. See 4-13, Court Areas.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

But as it stands I see nothing in the NFHS rule or case book that tells us to have a 3-second count during a front court throw-in.

If the NFHS rule was changed to include team control on a throw-in, then NFHS rule 9-7-1 would apply during front-court throw-ins without an exception. You'd need an exception for that, as well as all front-court throw-ins that went directly to a teammate of the thrower in the backcourt(9-9-1).

See NCAA rules 4-3-5 & 9-9-1(a). Those were the exceptions the NCAA had to add.

[grunewar]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

I would be interested to hear randall's thoughts on the rule change and how it will affect various throw-in case plays.

Instigator!

[Adam]

Originally Posted by grunewar

Instigator!

I think the term you're looking for is "agitator."

[bainsey]

We had a late-season, playoff-slot-determining game in this area this year that this rule change would have affected.

Team A is up one point, with :07 left, and a frontcourt endline throw-in. A-1 has the ball for the throw-in, as A-2 fouls B-2.

I can't remember if it was a regular or double bonus, but just the same, B-2 sinks both free throws, and Team B holds on for the win.

[GoodwillRef]

Maybe A2 shouldn't have fouled B2!