The Official Forum  

Go Back   The Official Forum > Basketball
Register FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old Wed Apr 20, 2011, 06:39pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Aug 1999
Location: In the offseason.
Posts: 12,263
Rule changes

I have heard from a pretty good source that there is one and only one rule change this year....team control on a throw-in.
__________________
Owner/Developer of RefTown.com
Commissioner, Portland Basketball Officials Association

Last edited by Camron Rust; Wed Apr 20, 2011 at 09:19pm.
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old Wed Apr 20, 2011, 06:59pm
Adam's Avatar
Keeper of the HAMMER
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: MST
Posts: 27,190
Quote:
Originally Posted by Camron Rust View Post
I have heard from a pretty good source that there is on and only one rule change this year....team control on a throw-in.
That would make me happy.
__________________
Sprinkles are for winners.
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old Wed Apr 20, 2011, 07:01pm
APG APG is offline
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 5,889
Count me as someone that approves this.
__________________
Chaos isn't a pit. Chaos is a ladder. Many who try to climb it fail and never get to try again. The fall breaks them. And some, given a chance to climb, they refuse. They cling to the realm, or the gods, or love. Illusions.

Only the ladder is real. The climb is all there is.

Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old Wed Apr 20, 2011, 07:50pm
Do not give a damn!!
 
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: On the border
Posts: 30,539
It seems to take them a few years to get the rules they add correct.

Peace
__________________
Let us get into "Good Trouble."
-----------------------------------------------------------
Charles Michael “Mick” Chambers (1947-2010)
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old Wed Apr 20, 2011, 08:37pm
APG APG is offline
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 5,889
Quote:
Originally Posted by JRutledge View Post
It seems to take them a few years to get the rules they add correct.

Peace
Now if there were a couple of interpretations they would could get correct...
__________________
Chaos isn't a pit. Chaos is a ladder. Many who try to climb it fail and never get to try again. The fall breaks them. And some, given a chance to climb, they refuse. They cling to the realm, or the gods, or love. Illusions.

Only the ladder is real. The climb is all there is.

Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old Wed Apr 20, 2011, 08:45pm
Courageous When Prudent
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Hampton Roads, VA
Posts: 14,929
I would be interested to hear randall's thoughts on the rule change and how it will affect various throw-in case plays.
__________________
A-hole formerly known as BNR
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old Thu Apr 21, 2011, 09:25pm
Fav theme: Roundball Rock
 
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Near Dog River (sorta)
Posts: 8,558
Quote:
Originally Posted by Camron Rust View Post
I have heard from a pretty good source that there is one and only one rule change this year....team control on a throw-in.
This rule change will induce a mechanics change: the calling official will now have to voice at the time of infraction, the location of the ensuing throw-in. Not doing at this time could raise uncertainty about one's call.

More importantly, they will have to be dead-on accurate with their closest spots. In the past, awarding a FC throw-in when it should have been a BC throw-in was no big deal. Now it is, in a big way.
__________________
Pope Francis
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old Thu Apr 21, 2011, 09:31pm
APG APG is offline
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 5,889
Quote:
Originally Posted by JugglingReferee View Post
This rule change will induce a mechanics change: the calling official will now have to voice at the time of infraction, the location of the ensuing throw-in. Not doing at this time could raise uncertainty about one's call.

More importantly, they will have to be dead-on accurate with their closest spots. In the past, awarding a FC throw-in when it should have been a BC throw-in was no big deal. Now it is, in a big way.
Why? I'm sure they'll make the rule and accompanying exceptions the same as NCAA, so for the most part, we handle this exactly the same way.
__________________
Chaos isn't a pit. Chaos is a ladder. Many who try to climb it fail and never get to try again. The fall breaks them. And some, given a chance to climb, they refuse. They cling to the realm, or the gods, or love. Illusions.

Only the ladder is real. The climb is all there is.

Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old Thu Apr 21, 2011, 09:59pm
Fav theme: Roundball Rock
 
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Near Dog River (sorta)
Posts: 8,558
Quote:
Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer View Post
Why? I'm sure they'll make the rule and accompanying exceptions the same as NCAA, so for the most part, we handle this exactly the same way.
Having never read the NCAA book, I can't comment to your post. If the NCAA has TC on a TI, then following their lead makes sense.

I was working the assumption that if there's TC on a TI, then an inbounding pass from FC to BC is illegal. This is how it works in FIBA. I've also learned that many officials have to make up the closest spot when they don't identify the throw-in spot with prelim signal. After the fact spot identification; sometimes they're close, sometimes not. If they're not close, it exists assigning the TI to the wrong "court".

And any official worth his game fee will not get this stuff wrong.
__________________
Pope Francis
Reply With Quote
  #10 (permalink)  
Old Thu Apr 21, 2011, 10:03pm
APG APG is offline
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 5,889
Quote:
Originally Posted by JugglingReferee View Post
Having never read the NCAA book, I can't comment to your post. If the NCAA has TC on a TI, then following their lead makes sense.

I was working the assumption that if there's TC on a TI, then an inbounding pass from FC to BC is illegal. This is how it works in FIBA. I've also learned that many officials have to make up the closest spot when they don't identify the throw-in spot with prelim signal. After the fact spot identification; sometimes they're close, sometimes not. If they're not close, it exists assigning the TI to the wrong "court".

And any official worth his game fee will not get this stuff wrong.
NCAA does have team control during a throw-in and has specific exemptions that allow the ball to be thrown into the backcourt and allows a team to retrieve the ball in the backcourt after the throw-in ends if player control has not been established first.

I believe only FIBA and the NBA do not allow frontcourt throw-ins to be thrown into the backcourt and even the NBA allows that in the final two minutes of the 4th/OT.
__________________
Chaos isn't a pit. Chaos is a ladder. Many who try to climb it fail and never get to try again. The fall breaks them. And some, given a chance to climb, they refuse. They cling to the realm, or the gods, or love. Illusions.

Only the ladder is real. The climb is all there is.

Reply With Quote
  #11 (permalink)  
Old Thu Apr 21, 2011, 10:24pm
Courageous When Prudent
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Hampton Roads, VA
Posts: 14,929
Quote:
Originally Posted by JugglingReferee View Post
Having never read the NCAA book, I can't comment to your post. If the NCAA has TC on a TI, then following their lead makes sense.

I was working the assumption that if there's TC on a TI, then an inbounding pass from FC to BC is illegal. This is how it works in FIBA. ....
No such restriction in NCAA.
__________________
A-hole formerly known as BNR
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
I violated rule #1.....not THAT rule #1 Judtech Basketball 148 Mon Jan 31, 2011 09:09am
Rule 6 3O enforcement - 20 second pitch rule wadeintothem Softball 5 Tue Jun 30, 2009 03:33pm
Rule 1, The Forgotten Rule TxJim Football 14 Thu Jan 04, 2007 07:02pm


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:11am.



Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.3.0 RC1