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I have a question for the board members. What does your state require with patches? In Illinois for example we have had two patches to wear, a State patch on one arm and a Sportsmanship patch on the other. This year they changed the patches and got rid of the Sportsmanship patch and designed a new State patch for one sleave. These patches have to worn for all games. So in other words, we cannot officiate a plain shirt.
What does other states require with patches, and do they also require the wearing or allow the wearing of an American Flag? We also have a patch that the state allows officials that have done a State Finals Series. Does your state have such a patch for those accomplished officials? And if they do allow you to wear such a patch, what do you feel about wearing a patch or working with guys that wear them? Do you feel that they are "professionally" inappropriate or do you not have a problem with them. With that last question I am personally torn, but have heard guys complain about State Final Officials wearing such a patch during games. Basically, what do you guys think? Peace
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Sun Dec 29, 2002, 12:52am
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We have an NCHSAA patch on our CCA-type jacket. Our state director does not like any patches on the shirt.
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Sun Dec 29, 2002, 02:20am
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In Arizona, the state patch is mandatory and the US flag is optional. Both officials must wear the flag if one chooses to wear it.
As far as the "state finals" patch, I think that is BS. Those guys definitely deserve credit for achieving that level, but a patch is inappropriate. I think it is arrogant and doesn't promote a team attitude towards other officials.
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Sun Dec 29, 2002, 02:41am
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Here in eastern Idaho we do not wear a patch. A few years back (maybe 7 or 8) patches were worn.... now they are not.
We did start wearing an American flag on our jackets (center, back, two inches below the collar) after 9/11/01. No state memoribilia (sp?) is worn by the boy's club member's either - I'm not as convinced that those officiating at State are really that deserving of being there.... some are, some are NOT.... previously being a coach, dating a coach, coaches brother, playing softball with the coaches during the summer, college roommates,... etc. doesn't make you the best qualified official. But in a district where the coaches evaluation counts for the vast majority of an official's evaluation... they call the shots and the boy's club wins.... At least they don't get patches too... for sucking up!
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Sun Dec 29, 2002, 03:14am
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WOA (Washington Officials Association) patch over the heart. Flag patch optional. I'll be officiating at the state tourney this year, but I think that a state patch is a stupid and elitist idea. The officials are supposed to be a team. For one to wear a patch that says, "hey, look at me...I reffed at state" seems very individualistic. Z
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Sun Dec 29, 2002, 03:18am
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Already?
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Peace
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Sun Dec 29, 2002, 08:40am
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Here in Nassau County (long Island, NY) we wearan IAABO patch on the left front of the uniform shirt and, since 9-11, an American Flag on the rear top of the shirt. Personally I would prefer the American flag to be on the front or on the left sleeve.
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Sun Dec 29, 2002, 09:28am
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Way up here in the sticks of Minnesota, no patches are worn on officials uniforms. I was wondering for the optional patches, does that mean you have to carry that many shirts with different patches sewn on them so the officials can match on that particular night? It is a pain for me to carry three pairs of pants so I can match my partner, let alone that many combinations of shirts. I think a state tournament patch is inappropriate as well. I went to my first D1 basketball game yesterday. It was Bobby Knight and Texas Tech against the Minnesota Gophers. I wanted to see coach Knight get on the officials and how they handled him. He was a relative pussycat. Only had words for the officials twice. They were very solid officials. One guy made a foul signal by raising his knee which I don't think is a ncaa official foul signal. The strange thing is that he reported to the table using the same signal. One of the other guys (who I thought was really outstanding) pointed with his middle two fingers folded and his thumb up, index finger, and pinky pointing. I've never seen this and thought it very strange. Well, thats all I have to say 'bout that! By the way, those officials had no patches on their shirts!
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Sun Dec 29, 2002, 10:16am
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In WI
I presume you know this Jeff, since you officiate in our state...
WI has no patches; however, the WIAA has approved the wearing of a 2" X 3" flag on the left sleeve. I do not like the concept of having state tourney officials getting a patch, especially knowing the process that is used to "select" these officials.
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Sun Dec 29, 2002, 11:53am
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Utah does not wear patches. We have our jacket with a logo on it...
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Sun Dec 29, 2002, 12:12pm
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In MA, all boys' officials wear an IAABO patch and a MA state patch. Girls' officials wear neither of those, but some do wear a patch from some organization. I've never looked closely enough to know what the girls' board patch says.
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Sun Dec 29, 2002, 12:14pm
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and Z could indeed know ahead of time if he gets to referee the state tournament if they do it like Texas does where you get to go 3 years in a row.
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Sun Dec 29, 2002, 12:57pm
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Girls---flag on sleeve. Boys---also wear another patch on front (but I don't know what 'cause I only work girls). Question: What's the best way to attach the flag (or other patch)? Sew it on? Velcro? And where does one buy the velcro, anyway...?
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