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Old Wed Apr 06, 2011, 07:57am
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I hear what you are saying, but Adams has made it clear. If it is a violation at the beginning of the game, it is a violation at the end.

No one is complaining (including me), but if he doesn't hold them accountable, I would believe that Burr & Co would be wondering why they were reprimanded for not calling a travel/OOB and not last nights crew.

We are getting to the point where everyone demands that all things are treated equally.
Reprimanded...? Didn't Burr work the NCAA tournament?
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Reprimanded...? Didn't Burr work the NCAA tournament?
The whole crew from the Rutgers game was removed from doing games for the rest of the Big East's tournament schedule.
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The whole crew from the Rutgers game was removed from doing games for the rest of the Big East's tournament schedule.
But Burr did get 2 games in the NCAA Tournament.

Higgins received no games but he may not have been receiving any games anyway.

Walton didn't get any NCAA games after working the last couple years. But he did some NIT games.
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But Burr did get 2 games in the NCAA Tournament.

Higgins received no games but he may not have been receiving any games anyway.

Walton didn't get any NCAA games after working the last couple years. But he did some NIT games.
None of which fall under the purview of the Big East leadership. They were "punished" by the Big East for what happened in a Big East game.

Plus, Adams gave a sort of verbal reprimand. Well, more of a finger wag, but still....
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Walton didn't get any NCAA games after working the last couple years. But he did some NIT games.
He also worked a Big Ten tournament game after he left NYC.
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The whole crew from the Rutgers game was removed from doing games for the rest of the Big East's tournament schedule.
I understand...but that had nothing to do with John Adams.
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I think it was Shows who passed on the travel. If he'd acted reflexively and called it, no gripe. But do you really want to make the Butler kids have to walk back across the floor to take a meaingless inbounds when the other team is already celebrating? Seems kind of cruel.
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I think it was Shows who passed on the travel. If he'd acted reflexively and called it, no gripe. But do you really want to make the Butler kids have to walk back across the floor to take a meaingless inbounds when the other team is already celebrating? Seems kind of cruel.
Good point, I guess thats why they dont just let anybody work those games.
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Good point, I guess thats why they dont just let anybody work those games.
Too bad. I could really have used the money.
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Good point, I guess thats why they dont just let anybody work those games.
There's some rule in FED, and I think in NCAA, that a game can be shortened if both coaches and the R agree.

The actions of the game indicate that's what happened, even if the clock operator didn't quite get the message.
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There's some rule in FED, and I think in NCAA, that a game can be shortened if both coaches and the R agree.
Like CBS would ever allow that to happen.
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There's some rule in FED, and I think in NCAA, that a game can be shortened if both coaches and the R agree.

The actions of the game indicate that's what happened, even if the clock operator didn't quite get the message.
There was an NCAA game last year that I saw on ESPN where there were 37 seconds left in a 30 point game and the winning team dribbled to the front court and held the ball. With about 10 seconds left in the game and 8 on the shot clock, the losing team walked over to their bench. The shot clock expired with a horn, but the handshakes already started. The clock operator ran 2 seconds off the clock and the refs left the floor. Thought it was interesting.
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