Throw-In Location After a Time-Out

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[APG]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

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Rule reference or mechanic reference? I've always treated this as if it went OOB behind the basket. The violation isn't where it was shot, and it's not on the sideline. It's the basket support itself and thus the throw-in spot is at either lane line on the end line.

Same as an offensive FT violation.

NBA rules my man!

[Adam]

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer

NBA rules my man!

Oh, well never mind.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

Why? If a team chooses to burn a time-out, why shouldn't they be able to "buy" themselves a new 10-seconds, or 5-seconds on a throw-in? Team control has ended with the time-out, so how can they be in "continuous" control to continue the count from where it was before the time-out?
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For the same reason they don't get any more time on the shot clock after a time-out or why a kick ball under 15 seconds only resets the shot clock to 15.

I think the ability to call a time-out to avoid a 10 second backcourt violation is a huge advantage. Not only avoids the violation but also gives them another 10 seconds of game clock to get the ball across. At least I'm proposing they get 5 seconds if the count gets to 6,7,8, or 9. It's not like I'm saying they only should get 1 second after the timeout.

And before you go there it's not the same as avoiding a throw-in violation because when the throw-in resumes the clock will not be running.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer

Delayed lane violation...team calls a timeout. We come back from the timeout and STILL enforce the violation at least in NFHS. It's not unprecedented.

That is because the violation has already occurred, not that it is maybe about to occur.

[JRutledge]

I think the NBA rule would be applicable if we had a shot clock. All this rule would do at the HS level is cause problems as the official would have to explain how much time is left on the 10 second count. I would not like that kind of rule at the HS level at all for this very reason. Maybe if there was a shot clock then we could have a reference point, but all it takes is a coach not being aware of the time and more issues over when it started or stopped would be at issue. Keep the rule the same.

Peace

[APG]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I think the NBA rule would be applicable if we had a shot clock. All this rule would do at the HS level is cause problems as the official would have to explain how much time is left on the 10 second count. I would not like that kind of rule at the HS level at all for this very reason. Maybe if there was a shot clock then we could have a reference point, but all it takes is a coach not being aware of the time and more issues over when it started or stopped would be at issue. Keep the rule the same.

Peace

Which was why I said at the NCAA level though I don't think it would be difficult to tell the coach, "You have X amount of seconds to get it across," at the NFHS level. I think this rule should definitely be implemented at the NCAA level.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer

Which was why I said at the NCAA level though I don't think it would be difficult to tell the coach, "You have X amount of seconds to get it across," at the NFHS level. I think this rule should definitely be implemented at the NCAA level.

Even at the NCAA level, the shot clock and the 10 second count are not always the same. The Shot Clock starts when it is legally touched and that does not automatically start the 10 second count. I am not sure what the NBA says and that might be easier to implement at that level. I would think this would be a bad rule at the NCAA level.

Peace

[APG]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Even at the NCAA level, the shot clock and the 10 second count are not always the same. The Shot Clock starts when it is legally touched and that does not automatically start the 10 second count. I am not sure what the NBA says and that might be easier to implement at that level. I would think this would be a bad rule at the NCAA level.

Peace

Oh you'd have to change some language to make the rule work at the NCAA level but I don't think it'd be too difficult to implement. I think we should reward the defense when they force a team to burn most of their allotted time to get it across rather than allow the offense to buy itself out of a violation here.

The NBA rule says a team can not be in continuous possession of the ball in the backcourt for 8 seconds. The count starts when the ball is legally touched inbounds. Team possession is defined as holding, dribbling or passing the ball and ends when the other team gains possession of the ball or a field goal attempt strikes the rim.

[JRutledge]

If they did change the rule it would not be the first time there is a rule I think is silly. But I would have to deal with it like I deal with those other rules.

Peace

[Adam]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

If they did change the rule it would not be the first time there is a rule I think is silly. But I would have to deal with it like I deal with those other rules.

Peace

+1

I'm not a fan of fixing things that aren't broken.