Syracuse/Marquette Official

[JRutledge]

It might not have been a backcourt violation, but that looks like a travel to me.

Peace

[Adam]

I definitely thought he traveled.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

I definitely thought he traveled.

Agreed.

[Mark Padgett]

Well, it certainly looks like a travel, unless he took that "second" step with his right foot after the incorrect whistle and would not have done that if the whistle hadn't blown. Of course, the video doesn't have audio of the play, so I can't really tell. But, in all probability, if the official had not first called the backcourt violation, he would have called the travel so the result of the play was the same as if the backcourt violation would not have been called.

[bball_lurker]

Wouldn't his left foot be his pivot?
Catch>land on right>land on left>step with right
We can't see if he moves his left with the ref in the way.

BTW, way to circle the wagons, even with the ref admitting fault.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by bball_lurker

Wouldn't his left foot be his pivot?
Catch>land on right>land on left>step with right
We can't see if he moves his left with the ref in the way.

BTW, way to circle the wagons, even with the ref admitting fault.

In NCAA, the first foot down is the pivot. Learn the rule before jumping on our case.

We've been saying this since the play first happened. In fact, we were saying he missed the BC call before the media even had it.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by bball_lurker

Wouldn't his left foot be his pivot?
Catch>land on right>land on left>step with right
We can't see if he moves his left with the ref in the way.

BTW, way to circle the wagons, even with the ref admitting fault.

Well, if going be sarcastic at least know the travelling rule first.

Right foot lands on division line (establishing pivot foot); left foot lands in front court; right if lifted off of division line and placed completely in front court (travelling).

And it looks like someone is Tardy to the Party:

2011 Tournament Discussion Redux

[rulesmaven]

Boeheim was on Bob Ley's show on ESPN (outside the lines) this afternoon and was pretty classy. He talked about how Marquette still had to make the shot and that one call doesn't decide a game. He also said the official (I think it's actually kind of cool that the media is not using his name, so I won't either) called him and apologized.

I think it's a travel, because I think he completed the catch with his right hand. But this play seems to happen an awful lot where there's an airborne touch, one foot down, but the ball is not gathered in both hands until the second foot is down, and it seems to be called as a two-feet-down catch. If the backcourt hadn't been in the equation and he passed on the travel, would it have been a bad call?

[26 Year Gap]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

Well, if going be sarcastic at least know the travelling rule first.

Right foot lands on division line (establishing pivot foot); left foot lands in front court; right if lifted off of division line and placed completely in front court (travelling).

And it looks like someone is Tardy to the Party:

2011 Tournament Discussion Redux

Not sure if he had control when the right foot hit. But, if you go with the left as the pivot (after he had secured control), it looks like "Left. Right. Right. Start of dribble."

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by 26 Year Gap

Not sure if he had control when the right foot hit. But, if you go with the left as the pivot (after he had secured control), it looks like "Left. Right. Right. Start of dribble."

No problem if that is what you saw. But Lurker made no reference to the ball not being controlled. He said, "Catch>land on right>land on left>step with right", which is quite obviously a travel.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

Well, if going be sarcastic at least know the travelling rule first.

Right foot lands on division line (establishing pivot foot); left foot lands in front court; right if lifted off of division line and placed completely in front court (travelling).

Technically, that isn't correct.

The right foot doesn't actually become the pivot foot until the left foot touches in a a step.....that is the nuance in the rule that allows for the jump stop. A player landing on one foot can either establish a pivot foot by stepping with the other foot or they may execute a jumpstop and not have a pivot foot at all.

[just another ref]

If one wants to find an uncalled travel in this tournament, he will have no trouble doing so, in pretty much every game.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by bball_lurker

Wouldn't his left foot be his pivot?
Catch>land on right>land on left>step with right
We can't see if he moves his left with the ref in the way.

BTW, way to circle the wagons, even with the ref admitting fault.

And now that I'm re-reading this entire thread, who the f**k circled the wagons? May you be so kind to point the specific post that indicates a "circling of the wagons"?

[Judtech]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

And now that I'm re-reading this entire thread, who the f**k circled the wagons? May you be so kind to point the specific post that indicates a "circling of the wagons"?

He may be the coach of one of the teams I had last week. I knew it was going to be a long game when he called his "set" play. It was called: Circle The Wagons. ISUN!

Also, are we sure it wasn't a 10 sec back court?

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by Judtech

It was called: Circle The Wagons.

Hey - at least it wasn't called "Circle The Biebers"!