Syracuse/Marquette Official

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by bball_lurker

Wouldn't his left foot be his pivot?
Catch>land on right>land on left>step with right
We can't see if he moves his left with the ref in the way.

BTW, way to circle the wagons, even with the ref admitting fault.

Well, if going be sarcastic at least know the travelling rule first.

Right foot lands on division line (establishing pivot foot); left foot lands in front court; right if lifted off of division line and placed completely in front court (travelling).

And it looks like someone is Tardy to the Party:

2011 Tournament Discussion Redux

[rulesmaven]

Boeheim was on Bob Ley's show on ESPN (outside the lines) this afternoon and was pretty classy. He talked about how Marquette still had to make the shot and that one call doesn't decide a game. He also said the official (I think it's actually kind of cool that the media is not using his name, so I won't either) called him and apologized.

I think it's a travel, because I think he completed the catch with his right hand. But this play seems to happen an awful lot where there's an airborne touch, one foot down, but the ball is not gathered in both hands until the second foot is down, and it seems to be called as a two-feet-down catch. If the backcourt hadn't been in the equation and he passed on the travel, would it have been a bad call?

[26 Year Gap]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

Well, if going be sarcastic at least know the travelling rule first.

Right foot lands on division line (establishing pivot foot); left foot lands in front court; right if lifted off of division line and placed completely in front court (travelling).

And it looks like someone is Tardy to the Party:

2011 Tournament Discussion Redux

Not sure if he had control when the right foot hit. But, if you go with the left as the pivot (after he had secured control), it looks like "Left. Right. Right. Start of dribble."

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by 26 Year Gap

Not sure if he had control when the right foot hit. But, if you go with the left as the pivot (after he had secured control), it looks like "Left. Right. Right. Start of dribble."

No problem if that is what you saw. But Lurker made no reference to the ball not being controlled. He said, "Catch>land on right>land on left>step with right", which is quite obviously a travel.

[26 Year Gap]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

No problem if that is what you saw. But Lurker made no reference to the ball not being controlled. He said, "Catch>land on right>land on left>step with right", which is quite obviously a travel.

Initially, that is NOT what I saw, as I was focused only on his feet. Easily, a travel call in that instance, assuming he had control of the ball when his first foot landed. But, it appears to me that until he gathered the ball in and had both hands on it, that he did not have control of it. In that case, would it just be ugly looking because he did not lift his left foot prior to starting the dribble?

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by 26 Year Gap

Initially, that is NOT what I saw, as I was focused only on his feet. Easily, a travel call in that instance, assuming he had control of the ball when his first foot landed. But, it appears to me that until he gathered the ball in and had both hands on it, that he did not have control of it. In that case, would it just be ugly looking because he did not lift his left foot prior to starting the dribble?

I have no argument at all with what you are saying. I've just looked at the replay about 10-15 times and it's still not definitive either way to me.

My problem is with what Lurker described and saying it's not a travel.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

Well, if going be sarcastic at least know the travelling rule first.

Right foot lands on division line (establishing pivot foot); left foot lands in front court; right if lifted off of division line and placed completely in front court (travelling).

Technically, that isn't correct.

The right foot doesn't actually become the pivot foot until the left foot touches in a a step.....that is the nuance in the rule that allows for the jump stop. A player landing on one foot can either establish a pivot foot by stepping with the other foot or they may execute a jumpstop and not have a pivot foot at all.

[just another ref]

If one wants to find an uncalled travel in this tournament, he will have no trouble doing so, in pretty much every game.

[APG]

Originally Posted by just another ref

If one wants to find an uncalled travel in this tournament, he will have no trouble doing so, in pretty much every game.

If one wants to find an uncalled travel in ANY basketball game, he will not have trouble doing so, at any level.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer

If one wants to find an uncalled travel in ANY basketball game, he will not have trouble doing so, at any level.

"Ggggeeetttt him here!!!!"

Peace

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer

If one wants to find an uncalled travel in ANY basketball game, he will not have trouble doing so, at any level.

This may be true, but in NCAAM now there are so many that are so obvious, that I can't help but believe this is done by design in certain situation.

Scoring plays, perhaps? Tonight Plumlee for Duke, not the most deceptively nimble guy on the floor, caught the ball on the left side of the rim, took a big step across to the right side on his right foot, followed by the left. Then went up flat footed off 2 feet and dunked. No call.

This was one like my son used to call in front of the tv...........when he was about 8 years old.