2011 Tournament Discussion Redux

[Raymond]

Early in BU/KU game Glenn Tuitt calls a basket interference or goaltending. Defensive player puts both his hands on backboard on either side of the basket but I never saw him touch the ball or the basket itself.

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

Early in BU/KU game Glenn Tuitt calls a basket interference or goaltending. Defensive player puts both his hands on backboard on either side of the basket but I never saw him touch the ball or the basket itself.

LIU player bringing the ball up the floor. Straddling the division line, he batted the bll that was still in the BC back to his teammate. Doug Shows called BC.

[BktBallRef]

Chat is open...JugglingRef and I are there.

[grunewar]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

Chat is open...JugglingRef and I are there.

I've had issues getting into the room, I'm gonna try computer #3 later today......

PS - So, Mr. Obama went 15-1 yesterday in his picks, Michigan won the game without foul shots......Tsunami's. earthquakes! Sheesh!

[chymechowder]

rule questions:

1. A1 throws in from his endline. B1 touches ball after it is released; ball deflects down onto the endline. official whistles, points at endline and whistles A1 for a throw in violation.

setting aside the fact that he missed B1 touching the ball, is that just an ncaa rule? that is, in Fed rules, is there anything wrong with inbounding the ball with a bounce pass that first hits a boundary line?

2. do NCAA rules have a different definition for what constitutes a kick? in Fed, the contact has to be intentional right? seems that there are times when a team A player tries to force a bounce pass into traffic. the ball strikes a team B player's foot and they call it a kick.

of course, I could be missing the intentional leg movement. but it seems there are times when it happens so fast that the team B player doesn't move his leg at all. (doesn't even have time to react, in fact.) just wondering if NCAA doesn't require the intent.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by chymechowder

rule questions:

1. A1 throws in from his endline. B1 touches ball after it is released; ball deflects down onto the endline. official whistles, points at endline and whistles A1 for a throw in violation.

setting aside the fact that he missed B1 touching the ball, is that just an ncaa rule? that is, in Fed rules, is there anything wrong with inbounding the ball with a bounce pass that first hits a boundary line?

9-2-2: The ball shall be passed by the thrower directly into the court.......

[chymechowder]

Originally Posted by just another ref

9-2-2: The ball shall be passed by the thrower directly into the court.......

thanks! if i'd had my book I could've read the case play that specifically addresses this

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by chymechowder

In Fed, the contact has to be intentional right? Seems that there are times when a team A player tries to force a bounce pass into traffic. The ball strikes a team B player's foot and they call it a kick. Of course, I could be missing the intentional leg movement. but it seems there are times when it happens so fast that the team B player doesn't move his leg at all.

NFHS: Kicking the ball is intentionally striking it with any part of the leg or foot. An unintentionally kicked ball is never illegal, regardless of how far the ball goes and who recovers it.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by chymechowder

rule questions:

1. A1 throws in from his endline. B1 touches ball after it is released; ball deflects down onto the endline. official whistles, points at endline and whistles A1 for a throw in violation.

setting aside the fact that he missed B1 touching the ball, is that just an ncaa rule? that is, in Fed rules, is there anything wrong with inbounding the ball with a bounce pass that first hits a boundary line?

2. do NCAA rules have a different definition for what constitutes a kick? in Fed, the contact has to be intentional right? seems that there are times when a team A player tries to force a bounce pass into traffic. the ball strikes a team B player's foot and they call it a kick.

of course, I could be missing the intentional leg movement. but it seems there are times when it happens so fast that the team B player doesn't move his leg at all. (doesn't even have time to react, in fact.) just wondering if NCAA doesn't require the intent.

Same rules in both. But, the benefit of the doubt goes to "kick" in the second play.