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Old Thu Mar 17, 2011, 09:27am
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I don't know, but it is something that seems to get an "automatic" reaction from some officials where all ability to think goes out the window.

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I'd ask who said "automatic," but there were a couple who did. I will say this, I don't think most people mean the same thing with that word. I don't use it because there are exceptions to almost everything I could use it for; but I think others make allowance for the fact that there could be exceptions, even when using the term "automatic."
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Old Thu Mar 17, 2011, 09:38am
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I'd ask who said "automatic," but there were a couple who did. I will say this, I don't think most people mean the same thing with that word. I don't use it because there are exceptions to almost everything I could use it for; but I think others make allowance for the fact that there could be exceptions, even when using the term "automatic."
Not only were there people that said it was an "automatic" T, but there were others that made is sound like that was the only option.

But when I say there could be an exception or another way to handle it, then that cannot be even discussed. But we can talk about a situation that is very much explicit in the rulebook, but people find "exceptions" to applying the rule as written. It comes down to that we make decisions for all kinds of reasons whether these are for the right or wrong reasons. Not much different than what a political candidate says on the campaign trail, then when put in the actual situation in office they are more deliberate in what they ultimately do.

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Old Thu Mar 17, 2011, 09:50am
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Not only were there people that said it was an "automatic" T, but there were others that made is sound like that was the only option.
Oh, that would be me, talking about my area (and the other areas I've worked.)
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Old Thu Mar 17, 2011, 09:52am
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Oh, that would be me, talking about my area (and the other areas I've worked.)
Well I can talk about my area(s) too. I have some options and in some places if I gave a T for that I would be the first one and the only one.

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Well I can talk about my area(s) too. I have some options and in some places if I gave a T for that I would be the first one and the only one.

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Fair enough. I'll keep that in mind if I ever work in Wheaton (which, by the way, may as well be Chicago to the rest of the country).
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Well I can talk about my area(s) too. I have some options and in some places if I gave a T for that I would be the first one and the only one.

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You're a leader JRut! Go ahead set the tone

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Fair enough. I'll keep that in mind if I ever work in Wheaton (which, by the way, may as well be Chicago to the rest of the country).
How could the rest of the country be oh so wrong?
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Old Thu Mar 17, 2011, 10:19am
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How could the rest of the country be oh so wrong?
It is not about being a leader or setting a tone, I just do not overreact to things people do like some do on this site. And I doubt seriously what we do here is much different than what others do around the country. The difference might be that not everyone officiates in the suburbs or rural areas alone.

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Old Thu Mar 17, 2011, 10:08am
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Fair enough. I'll keep that in mind if I ever work in Wheaton (which, by the way, may as well be Chicago to the rest of the country).
I will say this to you again. I rarely if ever work a game in Wheaton. And to someone from Chicago, Wheaton is not the South-side and the South-side is not the same as Ottawa.

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Since Bob clipped the OP, this will preserve the important part

A good many of the grown-ups pursue victory with venom.So far, we have witnessed:
• A scorekeeper for Santa Teresa of San Jose repeatedly pounding his fist with seismic force on the scorer's table during a boys game at Sheldon, bemoaning the officiating and hollering his disdain ("They're not that good!") for the host Huskies, who were rolling to victory. A Santa Teresa parent, seated nearby, offered this when a Sheldon player drove the lane: "Hammer him!"
That stereo sound of discord contrasted with a Santa Teresa mother who raved about the full-gym atmosphere, the experience for her son and her family who made the three-hour trip.
• A De La Salle assistant coach, in a Division I semifinal game against Sheldon, flew off his chair when convinced a referee missed a call. He pointed at the referee and shouted: "You (expletive) cheaters!" Maybe the referee was too stunned to offer a technical foul.
The hypocrisy, of course, is in how De La Salle plays. The Concord-based team doesn't just execute superb defense with fundamentals and effort, but hammers and hacks until something is called. A moment after Sheldon players graciously went through the postgame hand-shake line, trying to make sense of a crushing 47-45 loss, a De La Salle booster hissed to a despondent Sheldon player, "Go back to Sac, you punk!"

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I will say this to you again. I rarely if ever work a game in Wheaton.
Not really relevant, but ok.

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And to someone from Chicago, Wheaton is not the South-side and the South-side is not the same as Ottawa.
Maybe, but from someone as far away as Des Moines, it's all Chicago.
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