Ref will get younger

[GoodwillRef]

NCAA supervisor pledges that refs will get younger - College Basketball News | FOX Sports on MSN

[Rich]

Originally Posted by GoodwillRef

NCAA supervisor pledges that refs will get younger - College Basketball News | FOX Sports on MSN

In his tournament, sure. I bet he wishes he had the power to affect the officials the conferences hire. You can hear it in what he says.

[JugglingReferee]

I feel bad for those officials who are too young to get a healthy schedule, yet too old by Adams' standards.

[centkyref]

The line from the "experts" will be..."It's too bad this great game had to ruined by the inexperience of that ref. If only they had put veterans on the game who know how to handle the situation..."

[GoodwillRef]

If you make it to Division 1 basketball you have already had a ton of basketball officiating experience.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by GoodwillRef

If you make it to Division 1 basketball you have already had a ton of basketball officiating experience.

Can you, with absolute certainty, say that on the women's side when talking about women officials?

[Welpe]

Originally Posted by GoodwillRef

If you make it to Division 1 basketball you have already had a ton of basketball officiating experience.

Yeah but since when did the common-taters care about facts like that?

[OldFanDan]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

I bet he wishes he had the power to affect the officials the conferences hire.

Don't think for one second that his decisions can't affect the assignors for each and every conference.

All he (and by extension, the NCAA) has to do is set up parameters of who does / does not qualify to work NCAAT games and all assignors will make their hires accordingly. The assignors will quickly realize that their conference must fall into line with the others or possibly be penalized for following arbitrary 'guidelines.' If the assignor hires outside these parameters, then the officials who work for his conference wouldn't get any NCAAT games; pretty simple concept. That would certainly get the attention of all the assignors and all the officials.

The saddest part of watching many of these once great officials work big games is that some of them are working on their reputations only; they have slowed down, or their eyes aren't as good, whatever ... but they are not able to do the job that they once did so well. With the big money available today I suppose it is very difficult to realize that perhaps they should get out, for the good of the game.

As far as the assignors wanting 'experienced' officials on their big games: the Rutgers / St. John's fiasco had a crew with perhaps 90 years experience (I'm guessing here) ... does anybody here dispute the fact that a crew with a combined experience of less than 25 years could have screwed it up any worse than the 'experienced' guys did?

As far as one comment that I read here that nobody feels any worse about the Rutgers / St. John's screwup than the three officials: I suppose the players on the team who got screwed out of the chance to win and advance might feel worse. After all, I'm sure that the three officials collected their full game fees and expenses. Pretty nice salve for doing a very poor job.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by OldFanDan

As far as one comment that I read here that nobody feels any worse about the Rutgers / St. John's screwup than the three officials: I suppose the players on the team who got screwed out of the chance to win and advance might feel worse. After all, I'm sure that the three officials collected their full game fees and expenses. Pretty nice salve for doing a very poor job.

You mean the players who threw the ball to the opponent to begin with? Gosh, I hope someone tells them they can blame the stupid refs for their loss.

They missed one call. One call. Doctors don't take less money when the get a diagnosis wrong. Attorney's don't take less money for making one mistake. Teachers can really screw up kids' lives in ways that are actually important, yet one kid failing out of school doesn't mean the teacher gets less money in his check. That's just stupid.

[OldFanDan]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

You mean the players who threw the ball to the opponent to begin with? Gosh, I hope someone tells them they can blame the stupid refs for their loss.

Okay, now I get it: because the Rutgers team screwed up a set play the refs were allowed to stop officiating. Sorry that I didn't see that earlier.

The refs had nothing to do with this screwup, that's a comforting thing to learn.

[Referee24.7]

Look, chalk it up to age, chalk it up to experience, chalk it up to reputation, chalk it up to pedigree -- the list can go on and on and on and on as to reasons why some stripes can't hang it up. . .

One reason and I have no doubt that officials like the Burr's, the Higgins', the Hightower's, etc etc etc -- stick around -- and that's because the coaches they work for want them on their games.

Dick Bavetta is 71 years old -- and he can't catch up to plays the majority of times in NBA games, but he's there because he knows how to manage players, manage coaches, and both those parties believe in him.

The same goes for both Burr and Higgins, and if you think for a nano-second that either one of those guys will only work a 1st or 2nd round game in the tourney, you're fooling yourselves.

Remember, we work at the collegiate level for coaches and in essence, them and the AD's are the supervisor's bosses, and many of those coaches (more than less) want Burr and Higgins to be on their floor when they play, and why? Because of the experience, because of the pedigree, and because those guys have been around this game long enough to know exactly what to say, how to say it, and to get both the coaches and players to buy it off on it -- hook, line, and sinker. . .

Nuff said, pencils down, game over.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by OldFanDan

Okay, now I get it: because the Rutgers team screwed up a set play the refs were allowed to stop officiating. Sorry that I didn't see that earlier.

The refs had nothing to do with this screwup, that's a comforting thing to learn.

Did you really get that from what I said; because I'm sure my 5 year old son would have better reading comprehension.

They screwed up, yep they sure did. So what?

It's not like Rutgers actually played any defense to earn that turnover, so they aren't getting punished in spite of playing well. They played like sh1t the last few seconds. I'd say they performed worse than the refs.

That said, you neglected to respond to the more important part of my post; but that's okay, I'm not sure you understood it anyway. I think I used some big words.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by OldFanDan

Don't think for one second that his decisions can't affect the assignors for each and every conference.

All he (and by extension, the NCAA) has to do is set up parameters of who does / does not qualify to work NCAAT games and all assignors will make their hires accordingly. The assignors will quickly realize that their conference must fall into line with the others or possibly be penalized for following arbitrary 'guidelines.' If the assignor hires outside these parameters, then the officials who work for his conference wouldn't get any NCAAT games; pretty simple concept. That would certainly get the attention of all the assignors and all the officials.

The saddest part of watching many of these once great officials work big games is that some of them are working on their reputations only; they have slowed down, or their eyes aren't as good, whatever ... but they are not able to do the job that they once did so well. With the big money available today I suppose it is very difficult to realize that perhaps they should get out, for the good of the game.

As far as the assignors wanting 'experienced' officials on their big games: the Rutgers / St. John's fiasco had a crew with perhaps 90 years experience (I'm guessing here) ... does anybody here dispute the fact that a crew with a combined experience of less than 25 years could have screwed it up any worse than the 'experienced' guys did?

As far as one comment that I read here that nobody feels any worse about the Rutgers / St. John's screwup than the three officials: I suppose the players on the team who got screwed out of the chance to win and advance might feel worse. After all, I'm sure that the three officials collected their full game fees and expenses. Pretty nice salve for doing a very poor job.

Old School returns.

Sigh....

I hate to break it to ya, fanboy, but the assignors work for the leagues, not the NCAA. The leagues make the policy decisions; not the assignors. And the assignors had better keep the Office happy.

Now feel free to piss off to a fanboy web site and dazzle them with your vast officiating knowledge gained by watching multi games on ESPN.

[OldFanDan]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Old School returns.

Sigh....

I hate to break it to ya, fanboy, but the assignors work for the leagues, not the NCAA.

Now feel free to piss off to a fanboy web site and dazzle them with your vast officiating knowledge gained by watching games on ESPN.

Your answer is exactly what I expected from somebody with your obviously limited intelligence; can you read or do you just babble on without any measurable reading comprehension ?

The silly name calling that you use can either be because of senility or lack of intelligence; my guess is that it's a combination of the two.

I paid my dues in officiating (more than one sport) and am just as entitled to my opinions as the likes of you. If you don't like them then feel free to ignore me; if you do respond then know that I will reply to you in the same manner that you use.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by OldFanDan

Your answer is exactly what I expected from somebody with your obviously limited intelligence; can you read or do you just babble on without any measurable reading comprehension ?

The silly name calling that you use can either be because of senility or lack of intelligence; my guess is that it's a combination of the two.

I paid my dues in officiating (more than one sport) and am just as entitled to my opinions as the likes of you. If you don't like them then feel free to ignore me; if you do respond then know that I will reply to you in the same manner that you use.

You know, all we have to do is take a look at your posting history, fanboy. This is the third straight year that you've shown up here in March to crap on D1 officials and get a plug in for your beloved Coach K and his Dookies. Then you'll disappear until next March. You have never contributed one damn thing related to officiating on this site except to whine and b!tch about something. Could that be because you're just another fanboy trying to justify his posts by telling us what a big-time official he was? Know what? If you want to get taken seriously, get involved in some officiating discussions instead of just coming here to crap on D1 officials every damn Spring.

Official---my azz!! Typical fanboy.