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Old Fri Mar 11, 2011, 11:36am
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If this has already been discussed I missed it so...

The player with the ball who appeared to travel and step OOB was in the process of chucking the ball while stepping OOB.

Let's say the whistle blew on the step OOB while he was in the process of chucking the ball into the air. Anything for the chuck? DOG?
Let's say you stuck him for DoG. How would you justify it in the rules?
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Old Fri Mar 11, 2011, 11:52am
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Let's say you stuck him for DoG. How would you justify it in the rules?
In reading NFHS 3-47 now I'm not sure I can give him a DOG warning.

Are you saying you would stick him for unsporting act? Or is it nothing? Wouldn't it be like a kid who dunks right after a travel call ie judgment call?

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Old Fri Mar 11, 2011, 11:54am
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In reading NFHS 3-47 now I'm not sure I can give him a DOG warning.

Are you saying you would stick him for unsporting act?
Nah, I wouldn't do either. There is a possibility of a T if his actions actually delay the game, but if they'd called this travel, they would have been looking at the monitor to determine the proper time left on the clock.

No way I'd go unsporting, either, unless he's looking at me ask for the ball and then throws it away.

On this play, it's nothing.
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Old Fri Mar 11, 2011, 12:11pm
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Actually if you need to understand something, then you have not been listening to what I have been saying at all. Travels are always judgment calls and can be debated. You cannot easily debate a foot on the line so clearly out of bounds like this one.

If you think the travel was obvious, what tape were you looking at?

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And if your writing in some of your previous posts in this thread had been one-tenth as clear as the above, you wouldn't have had multiple asking you what the hell you were talking about.
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Old Fri Mar 11, 2011, 12:27pm
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If this has already been discussed I missed it so...

The player with the ball who appeared to travel and step OOB was in the process of chucking the ball while stepping OOB.

Let's say the whistle blew on the step OOB while he was in the process of chucking the ball into the air. Anything for the chuck? DOG?
Already addressed by John Adams in ESPN article. Even it there had been a whistle the player thought game was over so no T for action.
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Old Fri Mar 11, 2011, 01:01pm
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And if your writing in some of your previous posts in this thread had been one-tenth as clear as the above, you wouldn't have had multiple asking you what the hell you were talking about.
It seems like you are one of the only people having a problem understanding my point on this play. Many have read and either agreed or disagreed with my point and were not trying to figure out what I was saying. Maybe your lack of understanding is and example of not understanding of the mechanics or rules very well. I do not know and will not try to guess. I think you made your mind up and you only wanted to debate why the travel was not called.

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Old Fri Mar 11, 2011, 02:24pm
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It seems like you are one of the only people having a problem understanding my point on this play. Many have read and either agreed or disagreed with my point and were not trying to figure out what I was saying. Maybe your lack of understanding is and example of not understanding of the mechanics or rules very well. I do not know and will not try to guess. I think you made your mind up and you only wanted to debate why the travel was not called.

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Yeah, Rut, your writing is always clear, coherent, and logically consistent.
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Old Fri Mar 11, 2011, 02:27pm
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Yeah, Rut, your writing is always clear, coherent, and logically consistent.
Take it for what it's worth, but I was able to understand Rut's initial point.
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Old Fri Mar 11, 2011, 02:38pm
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Yeah, Rut, your writing is always clear, coherent, and logically consistent.
I did not say it was always wonderful at all times. This is an internet forum, not a Master's Thesis or PhD Dissertation writing center. I think you made your mind up and I differing opinion was not what you wanted to hear. I also do not think you read every response from me. Do not blame that on me when you could not seem to understand others that made the same point as well. Again, there were others that debate with me and others on the points of the play, not how we wrote our responses. If you did not truly understand then you would have said what you did not understand. This is not my first rodeo here.

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Old Fri Mar 11, 2011, 02:40pm
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Yeah, Rut, your writing is always clear, coherent, and logically consistent.
I think the content is more important than the delivery, and that's really all that needs to be judged.

But that's just me......
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Old Fri Mar 11, 2011, 02:43pm
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This is not my first rodeo here.
You do rodeo, too?
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Old Fri Mar 11, 2011, 02:49pm
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You do rodeo, too?
I do last longer than 8 seconds.

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Old Fri Mar 11, 2011, 04:55pm
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Go back and look at the pictures and ask Rut for help in telling those two apart. Burr, apparently, IS the new trail, although he is not visible in the video.
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