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High school game - With timeout following a basket, a player runs the baseline but takes a nonchalantly dribbles once then passes it to a player who hits a halfcourt shot to win the game. I say this is illegal, since the player dribbles the ball rather than in bounding it directly. Am I correct?
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You are incorrect. It is perfectly legal to "dribble" the ball during a throw-in. Also, it matters not if it's a designated or undesignated throw-in.
The play that you posted is perfectly legal. The only thing that came even close to being a violation was the thrower stepping inbounds, and that wasn't even that close.
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No. That would be a throw-in violation for failing to throw the ball directly inbounds. They would be able to bounce pass to another teammate whom is also out of bounds on the endline during an undesignated spot throw-in.
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Unfortunately this is all too common these days. I'm glad that someone (official and/or game management) took care of business and had the parent taken care of.
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From The Files Of The Mythbusters ...
A player inbounding the ball may step on, but not over the line. An inbounding player is allowed to jump or move one or both feet. A player inbounding the ball may move backward as far as the five-second time limit or space allows. A player inbounding the ball may bounce the ball on the out-of-bounds area prior to making a throwin. After a goal, or awarded goal, the team not credited with the score shall make the throw-in from any point outside the end line. A team retains this “run the endline” privilege if a timeout is called during the dead ball period after the goal. Any player of the team may make a direct throw-in or may pass the ball along the end line to a teammate outside the boundary line.
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Bounce pass is legal to team mate on a run the endline type play. The rule book says you can pass. Read Billy Mac post. It does not limit the type of pass. Therefore, it is not prohibited so it is legal.
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9.2.2 SITUATION D: A1 dribbles the ball on floor on the out-of-bounds area
before making a throw-in. RULING: Legal, a player may bounce the ball on the out-of-bounds area prior to making a throw-in. 9.2.2 SITUATION A: Thrower A1: (a) causes the ball to carom from the wall behind him/her, or from the floor out of bounds and then into the court; (b) caroms the ball from the back of the backboard to a player in the court; or (c) throws the ball against the side or the front face of the backboard, after which it rebounds into the hands of A2. RULING: Violation in (a) and (b), since the throw touched an object out of bounds. The throw-in in (c) is legal. The side and front face of the backboard are inbounds and, in this specific situation, are treated the same as the floor inbounds. |
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The player can't dribble the ball. A dribble can only be performed by a player in control, and there's no PC or TC during an inbounds pass.
The player can bounce the ball. Knowing that makes the answer to the OP easy. |
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When On The Official Forum, Use NFHS Definitions ...
NFHS: A dribble is ball movement caused by a player in control who bats
(intentionally strikes the ball with the hand(s)) or pushes the ball to the floor once or several times. Neither team control nor player control exists during a dead ball, throw-in, a jump ball or when the ball is in flight during a try or tap for goal. Webster: To move a ball by repeated light bounces or kicks, as in basketball or soccer. It would be nice if the NFHS used their own definitions. How can A1 be dribbling in this case play? 9.2.2 SITUATION D: A1 dribbles the ball on floor on the out-of-bounds area before making a throw-in. RULING: Legal, a player may bounce the ball on the out-of-bounds area prior to making a throw-in.
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PreGame This!
This is something to pregame for sure. A cunning coach would be good to tell his player to start dribbling while out of bounds, with the likely result that the defense will be shocked into inactivity over the strangeness of it and the coach will be yelling "Travelling!!!" or some such drivel. And you don't want to be on the crew whose one member doesn't knows its legality and blows it dead.
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