Nice Ending

[SNIPERBBB]

If you try to pause it a few times, the girl catches the ball with .7 still showing on the clock, it hadnt started yet. The ball reaches the halfway point to the basket with .1 showing

[Nevadaref]

Yes, the clock started a little late. It doesn't move until the thrower catches the ball, when it should start upon contacting the opponent's back. However, the timer did a decent job as he actually starts the clock prior to the Trial chopping. The Trail doesn't attempt to chop when the ball is thrown into the opponent.

I'd say the timing error is at most 0.2 seconds. That would have made the validity of the try extremely close to call.

[Nevadaref]

BTW is that one of the game officials at the table picking up her jacket following the ending or perhaps she was an alternate official sitting at the scorer's table.

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

BTW is that one of the game officials at the table picking up her jacket following the ending or perhaps she was an alternate official sitting at the scorer's table.

Conference playoffs, so that was an alternate official.

[ThatOneRef]

Well, Ive looked at it repeatedly and i say count it. its not but .1 second off from when it touched the girls back to when the clock starts. Human error/Reaction time is all part of basketball. Nice shot btw.

[GoodwillRef]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

BTW is that one of the game officials at the table picking up her jacket following the ending or perhaps she was an alternate official sitting at the scorer's table.

I have never seen a stand by/alternate official at the table without their CCA jacket on...strange.

[APG]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

Yes, the clock started a little late. It doesn't move until the thrower catches the ball, when it should start upon contacting the opponent's back. However, the timer did a decent job as he actually starts the clock prior to the Trial chopping. The Trail doesn't attempt to chop when the ball is thrown into the opponent.

I'd say the timing error is at most 0.2 seconds. That would have made the validity of the try extremely close to call.

I would guess closer to .3. Even if we go with .2, that leaves .5 left on the clock, and IMO she wouldn't have gotten it off in time. She shoots a regular jump shot and with .5 seconds left, there simply isn't time to do that...not with her jump shot.

[BBrules]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

Yes, the clock started a little late. It doesn't move until the thrower catches the ball, when it should start upon contacting the opponent's back. However, the timer did a decent job as he actually starts the clock prior to the Trial chopping. The Trail doesn't attempt to chop when the ball is thrown into the opponent.

I'd say the timing error is at most 0.2 seconds. That would have made the validity of the try extremely close to call.

I'm not familiar with 3-man. Is the trail supposed to be mirroring the lead's chop? The lead is counting with his left hand and his right is at his side. He then moves out of the camera range or is partially blocked from view so I can't see if he does a chop with his left hand, too. I don't see him do one with his right. As you say, the clock started before the trail does his.

[tomegun]

Rocky (or someone else who knows), in the woman's game does the C have the clock in this situation? I'm asking because the L nodding his head caught my attention. Although this isn't the case, what if the C is saying the basket isn't good?

[Rich]

Originally Posted by tomegun

Rocky (or someone else who knows), in the woman's game does the C have the clock in this situation? I'm asking because the L nodding his head caught my attention. Although this isn't the case, what if the C is saying the basket isn't good?

The last time I checked, it's always the T, regardless of the tableside, in MCAAW mechanics. If they've changed that, someone will be along to tell me I'm full of it.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

The last time I checked, it's always the T, regardless of the tableside, in MCAAW mechanics. If they've changed that, someone will be along to tell me I'm full of it.

I'm pretty sure for NCAA-W the C has primary responsibility for last-second shots. For NCAA-M is T or C opposite table.

[M&M Guy]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

The last time I checked, it's always the T, regardless of the tableside, in MCAAW mechanics. If they've changed that, someone will be along to tell me I'm full of it.

You're full of it.

NCAAW has had the C take the last-second shot for quite a while now, regardless of tableside. I believe the theory is since L and T are (usually) on-ball, the C has a (slightly) better opportunity to be able to be aware of both the clock and the shot.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by M&M Guy

You're full of it.

NCAAW has had the C take the last-second shot for quite a while now, regardless of tableside. I believe the theory is since L and T are (usually) on-ball, the C has a (slightly) better opportunity to be able to be aware of both the clock and the shot.

I did type MCAA-W mechanics.

Sorry, you're right. I went to my old NCAAW manual and there it was right in front of me. Matter of fact when I worked my one and only NCAAW game this season, we did exactly that.

Mea culpa. Mea maxima culpa.

[M&M Guy]

rocky - I'm assuming this game was not a media game? If it was, could the officials go to the monitor with a stopwatch to determine first, if there was timing error, then second, if the shot did indeed get released before the .7-second mark?

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by M&M Guy

You're full of it.

NCAAW has had the C take the last-second shot for quite a while now, regardless of tableside. I believe the theory is since L and T are (usually) on-ball, the C has a (slightly) better opportunity to be able to be aware of both the clock and the shot.

Hmmm -- I thought the theory was that if the ball changes direction in the last few seconds, it's still the same person taking the call.