roll over traveling

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by Mechanicsman

Well you have to be rolling to gain an advantage.

That's just it, you don't. Violations, unlike fouls, are not based on advantage/disadvantage.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by just another ref

Violations, unlike fouls, are not based on advantage/disadvantage.

Three seconds? Ten seconds to shoot a free throw?

"It is important to know the intent and purpose of a rule so that it may
be intelligently applied in each play situation. A player or a team should not be
permitted an advantage which is not intended by a rule. Neither should play be
permitted to develop which may lead to placing a player at a disadvantage not
intended by a rule."

Are there some rules that don't involve fouls?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Three seconds? Ten seconds to shoot a free throw?

"It is important to know the intent and purpose of a rule so that it may
be intelligently applied in each play situation. A player or a team should not be
permitted an advantage which is not intended by a rule. Neither should play be
permitted to develop which may lead to placing a player at a disadvantage not
intended by a rule."

Are there some rules that don't involve fouls?

Billy, the traveling rule (and the 3 and 10 second rules you note) do not require advantage; by rule.

3 seconds typically requires either advantage or excess, and the 10 second FT rule typically requires even more excess. Even then, it's not how they were written; it's how they are expected.

Traveling, however, as far as I know, is not now (nor has it been) expected to be called only when an advantage is involved.

[refiator]

Momentum cannot constitute a travel no matter how far a player slides with the ball. IT only becomes a travel when he/she rolls over.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by refiator

Momentum cannot constitute a travel no matter how far a player slides with the ball. IT only becomes a travel when he/she rolls over.

And even that is not if it is also part of the momentum of diving for the ball. The roll becomes a travel when it is no longer part of momentum.

[refiator]

Yes. Thanks for clarifying.