Last night's finish

[bainsey]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

I step back and watch as the player steps on the court with about an inch to spare, leaps out of bounds, and saves it back onto the court where it's possible it was caught in midair by a player that alighted from the backcourt.

The key question I have, Rich, is does save = control?

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by bainsey

The key question I have, Rich, is does save = control?

The key question I have, bainsey, is did you actually read what Rich wrote?

Rich: "...it appeared the saving player had frontcourt status and possessed the ball in the air during the save itself."

Kinda self-evident, don't ya think?

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

The key question I have, bainsey, is did you actually read what Rich wrote?

Rich: "...it appeared the saving player had frontcourt status and possessed the ball in the air during the save itself."

Kinda self-evident, don't ya think?

I think bainsey was commenting on the possibility that one could obtain possession while airborne as in the case that Rich presented.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee

I think bainsey was commenting on the possibility that one could obtain possession while airborne as in the case that Rich presented.

And I think that Rich in the case that he presented already definitively stated that possession was obtained while airborne.

Your point, old man:?

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

And I think that Rich in the case that he presented already definitively stated that possession was obtained while airborne.

Your point, old man:?

I've forgotten already. Where's my meds?

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by bainsey

The key question I have, Rich, is does save = control?

Save and COntrol are two separate items. You can have one without the other. In Rich's case, he had both.

[26 Year Gap]

Wonder if there was a game tape, Rich. I know it doesn't help now, but you might be able to see who was where.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by 26 Year Gap

Wonder if there was a game tape, Rich. I know it doesn't help now, but you might be able to see who was where.

It would be interesting, but I don't see how I could've done more with it. And with the home team losing on the foul at the horn, I'd rather not send mixed messages by going back for the tape -- they may think I want to look at the foul again and I really don't.

I do wonder if it's something the trail could've picked up since I was mainly trying to not get run over and also make sure the player saving the ball didn't step out of bounds before the save or before the ball was released back onto the court.

[bainsey]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Save and COntrol are two separate items. You can have one without the other. In Rich's case, he had both.

That's the thing, Bob. Rich didn't say the saver definitely controlled the ball, but rather, it "appeared" that he did.

As I understand it, A-1 in the frontcourt saves the ball from going out of bounds, and the ball is caught in the air by A-2, who has left the floor in the backcourt. This is where I asked him to commit to whether A-1 controlled it or not.

Big difference to make that call with confident knowledge, right?

[Rich]

Originally Posted by bainsey

That's the thing, Bob. Rich didn't say the saver definitely controlled the ball, but rather, it "appeared" that he did.

As I understand it, A-1 in the frontcourt saves the ball from going out of bounds, and the ball is caught in the air by A-2, who has left the floor in the backcourt. This is where I asked him to commit to whether A-1 controlled it or not.

Big difference to make that call with confident knowledge, right?

He caught the ball in the air and passed it back to the court. Definitely controlled.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by bainsey

That's the thing, Bob. Rich didn't say the saver definitely controlled the ball, but rather, it "appeared" that he did.

And that's all that's needed for the primary official.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

And that's all that's needed for the primary official.

Since I'm the one that gets to make that judgment, "appeared" is good enough for me.

Into the home stretch now. My number of games remaining is now in single digits (9).